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I too keep white worms and red earthworms for regular feeding to killifish
and other types. Recently all of my cultures, which I deep in a warm(er)
temp refer became contaminated with winged fruit flies. Efforts to date to
eliminate this scourge have resulted in even larger numbers. I am about try
a friends suggestion by setting the cultures open in the outdoors every few
days, until all of the adults exit . My neighbors and the envirnment would
suffer this way. Any better ideas?
>
> KillieTalk Digest Friday, January 26 2001 Volume 03 : Number
865
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> Re: what's a SJO?
> Cat Quote for newsletter
> Re: what's a SJO?
> Re: what's a SJO? (Dwarf Red?)
> Re: Killie community tanks
> Re: N.Rachovii
> Re: N. eggersi
> Re: what's a SJO?
> Re: R: N. eggersi
> R: R: N. eggersi
> Re: Killie community tanks
> Re: "Ruhoi"
> Re: what's a SJO? (Dwarf Red?)
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:53:40 -0500
> From: schmidtcarney at ecr_net
> Subject: Re: what's a SJO?
>
> KI><< By the way, Wright was talking about founding a movement to stamp
out
> KI> TLA's--must be something in the water on the "left coast" that makes
> KI> people turn radical (grin). >>
>
> KI>Being a former left coaster, I'm with Wright. Scientific names have a
> KI>purpose, not the least of which is that they are recognized
internationally.
> KI>Why do we killie folks have to speak in code?
>
> Hi Bob--
>
> Well, I can think of a couple of reasons, neither of them good. First is
> that it saves time--much faster to say (or type) SJO than Fundulopanchax
> sjoestedti. Second, it kind of serves as a "secret handshake" that
> separates the initiated from the uninitiated.
>
> I agree with both of you. I try to use the full scientific name (and
> location) when possible, especially on the general list. I slip back
> into the shorthand when talking privately with people (either e-mail or
> other) that I am reasonably certain are "on the same page."
>
> Of course, you should see the looks I get at the local pet stores when I
> rattle off a couple of scientific names in rapid succession (for that
> matter, I get the same sorts of looks when I breeze into the local
> garden center and ask for Cornus florida). Half the time the poor clerks
> have no idea what I'm talking about, since they barely recognize the
> fish using common names, and the other half they're totally intimidated
> (hey, we've got a walking dictionary here).
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Catherine
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:57:52 -0500
> From: schmidtcarney at ecr_net
> Subject: Cat Quote for newsletter
>
> KI>A couple days ago somebody wanted to quote me about my cats eating
airline
> KI>tubes for a killie newsletter. I zapped the email and forgot to
respond-
> KI>please, go right ahead.
>
> KI>(The little furry bastards unplugged my air pump last night, BTW)
>
> Hi Sherri--
>
> Thanks. I'm planning to put together a humor issue due to come out
> around the first of April. Can I also quote you on their airpump
> shenanigans?
>
> By the way, Peaches the fry slurping cat has taken a page out of your
> cats' manual and sleeps on top of the hoods. She's pretty light, so I
> don't expect much mayhem to result as long as she can't reach the fry
> containers....
>
> Catherine
> schmidtcarney at ecr_net
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:02:22 -0500
> From: schmidtcarney at ecr_net
> Subject: Re: what's a SJO?
>
> KI>> Why do we killie folks have to speak in code?
>
> KI>It's because most of us can barely spell in English and are utterly
useless
> KI>in fractured Latin. :-) How many of you can spell the scientific name
of the
> KI>Blue Gularis without looking it up?
>
> I can, but I'm also a walking dictionary (grin). Comes from having no
> social life during high school and most of college.
>
> KI>I do not like to see them used on auction bags at the club meetings,
because
> KI>they really confuse the new folks. The hobby is plenty complex without
> KI>adding to the confusion, IMHO.
>
> Which is probably another good reason to use the full names/locations
> every time. I can see it being a problem even in our own fish rooms,
> especially if your handwriting is at all messy (as mine is). I have
> labeled things quickly (usually flats of seedlings), then come back
> later and been unable to figure out what I meant.
>
> Catherine
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:06:48 -0500
> From: schmidtcarney at ecr_net
> Subject: Re: what's a SJO? (Dwarf Red?)
>
> KI>I recently hatched some eggs I received as *Fp. sjoestedti* Dwarf Red.
They
> KI>are growing and coloring up nicely. Don't look very dwarf or red to me.
>
> KI>Sue Bunte was by last week, took one look and said "That ain't no Dwarf
> KI>Red!" {Sue's family is from Mississippi, and her redneck roots
sometimes
> KI>show.] I argued with her on general principles, but knew she was
correct.
>
> KI>I forget where I got the eggs, but wish I could understand how I ended
up
> KI>with regular Blue Gularis when I thought I was getting Dwarf Reds.
>
> Hi Wright--
>
> I had 2 pairs of Dwarf Reds when the round robin box came around last
> fall and included eggs from them. Could they be from my fish? The only
> Dwarf Reds I've seen have been my own, so I don't have a frame of
> reference and passed them on as they were labeled when I received them.
>
> If these were from my fish, let me know and I'll let the other people
> that have them know that their designation is suspect.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Catherine
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:39:07 EST
> From: LadysSolo at aol_com
> Subject: Re: Killie community tanks
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> I have kept Epiplatys and Nothos together, Rivulus with Cynolebias (both
> whitei and nigripinnis) (yes I know they are no longer Cynolebias for the
> moment), various killies with Corydoras, and various Aphyosemions with
> platies. If I kept non-killies with the killies my egg production was VERY
> limited due to predation. Carolyn (hoping for a heat wave soon!)
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I have kept Epiplatys and
Nothos together, Rivulus with Cynolebias (both
> <BR>whitei and nigripinnis) (yes I know they are no longer Cynolebias for
the
> <BR>moment), various killies with Corydoras, and various Aphyosemions with
> <BR>platies. If I kept non-killies with the killies my egg production was
VERY
> <BR>limited due to predation. Carolyn (hoping for a heat wave
soon!)</FONT></HTML>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:36:01 +0200
> From: E Reisinger <erimages at mweb_co.za>
> Subject: Re: N.Rachovii
>
> George Morris wrote:
>
>
> > Good morning everyone. Why is N.rachovii KNP Black so rare? I
understand
> > that it has a pretty long incubation time, that's not a problem as far
as
> I
> > am concerned, are there other problems breeders have? I've never seen
it,
> > is it really black?
>
> There are a number of reasons for the rarity of N rachovii KNP Black.
This
> fish is from a small locality within the Kruger National Park, South
> Africa. All true KNP Black originate from a single introduction into the
> hobby by John Vermaak in 1984. Also, this species is on the Red Book List
> for RSA and it is therefore illegal to collect them without a permit.
There
> is almost no chance of being granted a permit by South African National
> Parks to do so. Another important matter is that KNP Black specimens have
> not been recorded in the park for a number of years, possibly due to the
> prolonged droughts or damage to the habitat during one year.
>
> The only person I know of who has KNP Black is Brian R. Watters.
>
> The fish are not completely black, rather, dark blue. (according to U de V
> Pienaar 1978)
>
> Regards
>
> Ryan Reisinger
>
> P.O Box 11537
> Queenswood
> 0121
> South Africa
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:03:14 EST
> From: LadysSolo at aol_com
> Subject: Re: N. eggersi
>
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> When I had "ruhoi" (about 12 years ago if my memory is correct) they were
the
> color that's on the fish in the picture's back, only it covered the whole
> body & fins. I don't know if there are color phases or not. If you get
them
> spawned, let me know if you'd like to sell some when the weather warms up
> (another species I passed on after I spawned them that I now want back!
> Hindsight is definitely 20/20!)
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>When I had "ruhoi" (about
12 years ago if my memory is correct) they were the
> <BR>color that's on the fish in the picture's back, only it covered the
whole
> <BR>body & fins. I don't know if there are color phases or not. If you
get them
> <BR>spawned, let me know if you'd like to sell some when the weather warms
up
> <BR>(another species I passed on after I spawned them that I now want
back!
> <BR>Hindsight is definitely 20/20!)</FONT></HTML>
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:10:57 -0500
> From: Doug Karpa-Wilson <dkarpawi at indiana_edu>
> Subject: Re: what's a SJO?
>
> >KI>Being a former left coaster, I'm with Wright. Scientific names have a
> >KI>purpose, not the least of which is that they are recognized
> >internationally.
> >KI>Why do we killie folks have to speak in code?
> >
> >Hi Bob--
> >
> >Well, I can think of a couple of reasons, neither of them good. First is
> >that it saves time--much faster to say (or type) SJO than Fundulopanchax
> >sjoestedti.
> >I agree with both of you. I try to use the full scientific name (and
> >location) when possible, especially on the general list.
> >
> >Just my thoughts.
> >
> >Catherine
>
> It would at least be good if we had an updated set of generic
> abbreviations, to speed up "Fundulopanchax" or "Scriptaphyosemion" I'll
> get right on it :-) Then I'll post them and you guys can pick it apart
> then.
>
> Doug
>
> Doug Karpa-Wilson
> Department of Biology
> Indiana University
> Jordan Hall
> 1001 E. 3rd St.
> Bloomington, IN 47405
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:07:53 EST
> From: LadysSolo at aol_com
> Subject: Re: R: N. eggersi
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> Yep, that's the fish I had years ago. It was a very pleasant species to
work
> with. Nice pictures! Carolyn
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Yep, that's the fish I had
years ago. It was a very pleasant species to work
> <BR>with. Nice pictures! Carolyn</FONT></HTML>
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:28:09 +0100
> From: "Roberto Cazzulani" <roberto.cazzulani at tin_it>
> Subject: R: R: N. eggersi
>
> Messaggio in formato MIME composto da pił parti.
>
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> Hi Carolyn
> But you have replied to my mail or those of Nonn?
> Roberto
> -----Messaggio Originale-----=20
> Da: LadysSolo at aol_com=20
> A: killietalk at aka_org=20
> Data invio: venerd=EC 26 gennaio 2001 16:07
> Oggetto: Re: R: N. eggersi
>
>
> Yep, that's the fish I had years ago. It was a very pleasant species =
> to work=20
> with. Nice pictures! Carolyn=20
>
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Carolyn</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>But you have replied to my mail or those of =
> Nonn?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Roberto</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">-----Messaggio Originale----- </DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>Da:</B> <A=20
> title=3DLadysSolo at aol_com =
> href=3D"mailto:LadysSolo at aol_com">LadysSolo at aol_com</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>A:</B> <A =
> title=3Dkillietalk at aka_org=20
> href=3D"mailto:killietalk at aka_org">killietalk at aka_org</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Data invio:</B> venerd=EC 26 =
> gennaio 2001=20
> 16:07</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Oggetto:</B> Re: R: N. =
> eggersi</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>Yep, that's =
> the fish I=20
> had years ago. It was a very pleasant species to work <BR>with. Nice =
> pictures!=20
> Carolyn</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:34:20 EST
> From: LadysSolo at aol_com
> Subject: Re: Killie community tanks
>
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> Forgot one thing in my earlier reply. I have a pair of S. boitonei in a
> 10-gallon tank. Picked up a pair of J. floridae at a local pet shop, &
since
> they are peaceful, thought they'd do okay. The boitonei MURDERED the pair
in
> less than 24 hours (sadly mutilated bodies.) And the boitonei are less
than
> 1/2 the size of the floridae! Live & learn (me, not the poor floridae!)
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Forgot one thing in my
earlier reply. I have a pair of S. boitonei in a
> <BR>10-gallon tank. Picked up a pair of J. floridae at a local pet shop,
& since
> <BR>they are peaceful, thought they'd do okay. The boitonei MURDERED the
pair in
> <BR>less than 24 hours (sadly mutilated bodies.) And the boitonei are less
than
> <BR>1/2 the size of the floridae! Live & learn (me, not the poor
floridae!)</FONT></HTML>
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:53:53 EST
> From: LadysSolo at aol_com
> Subject: Re: "Ruhoi"
>
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> The fish I had looks like the one on "Alf and Anita's Killie Page"
although
> you both have nice pictures. I particularly like the "Jos Plateau". If you
> have ruhoi available when the weather warms up, I wouldn't mind buying
some
> from you either! Carolyn (Where 36 degrees seems almost tropical!)
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>The fish I had looks like
the one on "Alf and Anita's Killie Page" although
> <BR>you both have nice pictures. I particularly like the "Jos Plateau". If
you
> <BR>have ruhoi available when the weather warms up, I wouldn't mind buying
some
> <BR>from you either! Carolyn (Where 36 degrees seems almost
tropical!)</FONT></HTML>
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:09:11 -0800
> From: Wright Huntley <huntley1 at home_com>
> Subject: Re: what's a SJO? (Dwarf Red?)
>
> schmidtcarney at ecr_net wrote:
> >
> > KI>I recently hatched some eggs I received as *Fp. sjoestedti* Dwarf
Red. They
> > KI>are growing and coloring up nicely. Don't look very dwarf or red to
me.
> >
> > KI>Sue Bunte was by last week, took one look and said "That ain't no
Dwarf
> > KI>Red!" {Sue's family is from Mississippi, and her redneck roots
sometimes
> > KI>show.] I argued with her on general principles, but knew she was
correct.
> >
> > KI>I forget where I got the eggs, but wish I could understand how I
ended up
> > KI>with regular Blue Gularis when I thought I was getting Dwarf Reds.
> >
> > Hi Wright--
> >
> > I had 2 pairs of Dwarf Reds when the round robin box came around last
> > fall and included eggs from them. Could they be from my fish? The only
> > Dwarf Reds I've seen have been my own, so I don't have a frame of
> > reference and passed them on as they were labeled when I received them.
> >
> > If these were from my fish, let me know and I'll let the other people
> > that have them know that their designation is suspect.
>
> Nope. They were not from you.
>
> Wright
>
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>
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> You have nothing to lose but your...
> Oh, NO! They are out to get those too?
>
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