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Re: gardneri gold was A. hera TDK 97/30
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From: Brian R. Watters <bwatters at sk_sympatico.ca>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: gardneri gold was A. hera TDK 97/30
> Scott Davis wrote:
> > Also, as you probably know better than I, a red male N. kortuasae was
> > collected on the island of Mafia. Aquarists crossed it with other KOR
> > females and fixed the red strain.
> Scott, what is the source of your information about N. korthausae Red as
> the above ?
> So far as I know, the red strain was introduced into the hobby as a result
> of a collection made by Eggers and Kasselmann in 1983 from the northern
> of Mafia Island (Edith Korthaus' original collections of the brown form
> from the southern part). Eggers and Kasselmann found both red and brown
> forms in the north and both were introduced into the hobby (or
> in the case of the brown form). I am not aware that there was only one red
> male, as you seem to suggest, but I don't know for sure. > I don't know
that for sure.
Humm... maybe I'm shooting my mouth off here. (Or shooting myself in the
The story is repeated as I probably miss-heard it. (And less interesting
than your account.)
The situation of two wild color strains is fascinating - and reminiscent
of the yellow and blue gardneri from Akure. (Now you've got me wondering if
messed that one up too. :) )
And all I wanted to do was tease Karl.
Were the collectors able to distinguish females of the red and brown
If not, how did they establish strains?
Did they breed certain males to certain females,
keep records of the batches and parents and then keep the consistently
>There is no such
> thing as a "blue" korthausae, unless there is some mutant
> form that I am unaware of.
That is my (somewhat unkind) point on the first KOR that were introduced to
the hobby. What
you have termed the brown KOR is also what we somewhere in the hobby have
been calling wild, yellow and blue. Those terms are confusing and misleading
as you have pointed out, sometimes wrong.
Brian, thanks for the corrections on the Red KOR. It is a little awkward to
story is being incorrectly told, but far better to get it straight.
All the best!
(Being embarrassed is not a part of my vocabulary. I probably can't spell
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