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RE: NOTHO-FADE-AWAY
Hi Tom:
I have not documented fade-away in any fish other than Nothos and possibly
Pinatus Bat Fish. Although there may be poor eaters in all species and
locations. When a Notho stops, it simply never eats again. Even if it
strikes at food it will not swallow it. There usually are no other symptoms
of illness. As I have opened this can of proverbial fish food. I am
interested to know if this conditions also affects south american annuals or
other fish. Please let me know if your Whitei ever take up eating again and
what it took.
Thanks,
-R.J.-
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From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
Behalf Of tgarof
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 9:02 AM
To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: Re: NOTHO-FADE-AWAY
Hey there TB,
When you said, "Noone has ever gotten a fading fish to eat again." I found
it
hard to believe. Well I have seen this case in my S. whitei. I really can't
tell
you exactly what I did, but one day he started eating again. He is doing OK.
He
still fluctuates in eating patterns. Some days he won't eat others he will.
It
may seem hard to believe but I can almost swear to it that the more
attention I
paid to him the better he became. I am also working with changing his food
frequently. I go from floating food (i.e. freeze dried brine shrimp) to live
worms that wiggle. I am trying to put a finger on what is actually working
and
what is not. I will keep you posted on the results.
Tom
P.S. I also place the worms in a worm feeder. This keeps the worms suspended
longer. I have noticed that once the worms hit the peat he is not as likely
to
even strike at them.
Tranquility Base wrote:
> Hello fellow Killie Ranchers and Ranchettes:
>
> I would like to submit a question for discussion or at best an answer. I
> have been raising various killies for about thyree years now. I have been
> able to get local pet shops interested in Notho's. i have sold both N.
> Rachovii and N. Guntheri. The best way to expand our hobby and to insure
a
> supply of fish for ourselves it to popularize the fish. Most species
breed
> in numbers too small for mass distrabution and then require too long to
> mature and color-up. Notho's breed rapidly and mature quickly. They are
so
> colorful that that just about everyone who sees them is impressed. Their
> relatively short lifespan is not necessarily relevent. I once asked a
> petshop owner his opinion on how long the average fish lives after it
leaves
> his store. He responded "Three Days". He may have overstated his point,
> but I do believe that most small fish last well under a year. The longest
I
> ever kept one fish was 19 years. This is just too long! Notho's have an
> amazing tolerance to PH, Hardness, and temperature. They can tolerate
high
> level of amonia and nitrogen waste. I have had them recover from
bacterial,
> fungel and intestinal infections. They have only one defect ...
> Notho-fade-away.
>
> The symptons for this disease are simple. The fish stop eating. They go
> about their business for about two weeks while their bellies deflate and
> then they die. Regardless what food is offered they simply will not eat.
I
> have had this happen to fish I bought. I have had it happen when I
> adventently underfed or if I missed a few feedings. It also happens when
I
> sell fish to pet shops. Note petshops also often underfeed. Curently it
is
> happening in one compartment of a devided 10 gallon tank almost all of the
> Notho's in one compartment are dying. Their siblings in the adjacent two
> compartments are doing fine. This illness does not appear to be
contageious.
> To date, I have lost N. Guntheri, N. Ugandensis, N. Rachovii, N.
> Fuscotaeniatus, N. Vossleri and N. Foershi. I have noticed some other
> symptems, these include rapid breathing, white or translucent fecies or
> bacterial infections in some but not all cases. These symptoms may have
> brought on the NOTHO-FADE-AWAY or simply have been taking advantage of the
> weakened fish. I believe that eliminating stress and consistant feeding
> might prevent the occurance of this condition. Unfortunately it is
> impossible to sell, ship or transport fish without stressing them.
Everyone
> who I have spoken to who has kept Nothos has seen this condition. Noone
has
> ever gotten a fading fish to eat again.
>
> Now back to my question: Does anyone know exactly what causes
> NOTHO-FADE-AWAY? What keeps the fish from eating? How do we get the fish
> to start eating again?
>
> Best regards to all
>
> RJ
>
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