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Re: KillieTalk Digest V3 #614
Hi Fellows: Anybody there have the Kenjiro's Tanaka e-mail address.
Regards
Juan Olcese
KillieTalk Digest wrote:
> KillieTalk Digest Sunday, October 8 2000 Volume 03 : Number 614
>
> In this issue:
>
> Re: Hard times . . . Anyone want to trade?
> Re: mop-spawning gularis
> BOUNCE killietalk at aka_org: Non-member submission from ["Diependael jean=louis" <coussens.claire at swing_be>]
> Eggs floating Eggs Sinking?
> Water treatments
> Re: Algae and STILL no eggs!
> Re: A. striatum Cape Esterias
> Re: Hard times . . . Anyone want to trade?
> Re: Eggs floating Eggs Sinking?
> Re: Eggs floating Eggs Sinking?
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> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 06:32:20 -0400
> From: "Tom" <tgrady at twcny_rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Hard times . . . Anyone want to trade?
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> Grant ...
>
> I have often spawned Blue Gularis by using bottom mops, picking the =
> eggs and following the standard water incubation techniques ... eggs =
> just incubate in water for a longer time period. Watch them carefully.
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> I have often spawned Blue =
> Gularis by=20
> using bottom mops, picking the eggs and following the standard water =
> incubation=20
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> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:02:16 EDT
> From: BizEcology at aol_com
> Subject: Re: mop-spawning gularis
>
> <<C - Y - P - H - E - R (a.k.a. Grant Baker) wrote:
> Well heres my story I got my fish today Fundulopanchax sjoestedti thinking
> they were a mop spawner and now I find out they aren't!!!!! So I am really
> bummed right now, im not ready for bottom spawners so I can't do them. : (
> so if there is anyone out there that would be so kind as to trade me for my
> pair of Fundulopanchax sjoestedti for a good mop spawning fish I would be
> so greatful.>>
>
> Don't get rid of them yet. I've bred them as mop spawners two different
> ways. In both situations I put the pair in a 5-10 gal tank with lots of
> bottom mops all over the tank.
>
> 1. Pull eggs from the mop every few days. Get a bunch of plastic ice cube
> trays and fill each compartment with straight tap water at room temperature
> (do NOT dechlorinate). Put one egg in each compartment. Once they hatch,
> you can raise them together as long as there is enough cover. Eventually, I
> wound up separating the males into separate containers to keep them from
> fighting.
>
> 2. Set up a container with damp (but not wet) peat moss forming a layer on
> the bottom. No water. Pull eggs every few days for a couple weeks and place
> each egg on the peat. After the two weeks, add some more barely damp peat
> moss, bag the eggs, and wait three months. Drop the peat into a container of
> water and hatching should begin in a few hours or less. This has worked for
> me with my dwarf red gularis during the past few months. I bought a rather
> old pair and the male has since died, but I have a great young pair coming
> up, as well as another dozen fry to use in establishing a breeding group.
>
> Best wishes;
>
> <<** Larry **>>
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> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 08:51:30 -0700
> From: owner-killietalk at aka_org (by way of Barry Cooper <bjc3 at cornell_edu>)
> Subject: BOUNCE killietalk at aka_org: Non-member submission from ["Diependael jean=louis" <coussens.claire at swing_be>]
>
> i'd like to know adresses where i can buy eggs of killies. i've been a
> killy amatour for years till an accident happened, i'd like to start again.
>
> coussens.claire at swing_be
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> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 09:39:16 -0700
> From: "-----Cypher-----" <cypher at cromas_net>
> Subject: Eggs floating Eggs Sinking?
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> Ok guys I have only had my fish for hours yet when I was tanking the =
> gravel out of there side of the tank I picked up the mop and noticed 3 =
> eggs I took them and put them in my margarine dish half full of water =
> with some egg gaurd and a sprig of java moss. Now what happened was 1 =
> egg is floating and the other 2 sank to the bottom. Any one know what =
> this means?
> C - Y - P - H - E - R=20
> (a.k.a. Grant Baker)
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Ok guys I have only =
> had my fish for=20
> hours yet when I was tanking the gravel out of there side of the =
> tank I=20
> picked up the mop and noticed 3 eggs I took them and put them in my =
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> margarine dish half full of water with some egg gaurd and a sprig of =
> java moss.=20
> Now what happened was 1 egg is floating and the other 2 sank to the =
> bottom. Any=20
> one know what this means?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>C - Y - P - H - E - R =
> <BR>(a.k.a.=20
> Grant Baker)<BR><A=20
> href=3D"http://www.cromas.net/cypher">www.cromas.net/cypher</A><BR><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:cypher at cromas_net">cypher at cromas_net</A><BR>"When you =
> reach the end=20
> of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."<BR>-Thomas =
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> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 11:55:45 -0500
> From: Bill Felton <bafelton at earthlink_net>
> Subject: Water treatments
>
> Hi all,
> OK, I'm moving into a new house and have to confront
> water quality issues, so the question at hand is --
> what's the range of options?
> Details -- water in this area (Plymouth, MN, NW suburb
> of Minneapolis) is aproximately 'liquid rock' -- hard
> and alkaline.
> There is a water softener in the new house.
> I know at a high level that the options range from 'use
> the water (pre-softener), plus peat filtration' to
> 'buy the biggest and best RO system you can find'.
> I assume that it would not be good to use the output
> of the softener due to the high sodium ion content, right?
> Would a de-ionizer (plus peat) be a reasonable option
> to explore?
> What about the Tetra unit? Before or after softener?
> Anybody care to share any RO stories and experiences?
> (I also keep orchids, so RO might well be the best plan,
> but, I'd sure like to know more about them before
> sinking that much money!)
> Thanks much!
> Bill
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> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:03:05 -0500
> From: "Scott Davis" <unclescott at prodigy_net>
> Subject: Re: Algae and STILL no eggs!
>
> Do you still have the Corys in there? They will actively seek out killie
> eggs. I have seen them shadow spawning tetras just having a wonderful time.
> They seem just about blind, but have a good sense of smell and feel with
> their barbells.
>
> Also, if you have plants and peat moss in the tank, why would the killies
> want to spawn on an artificial surface, unless they were really urgent? Mops
> may still gather some eggs, but are most effectively used in a bare tank.
>
> It aggravates me how much killies prefer hair algae (which I loath and
> detest) to almost anything else as a spawning medium. Still, it is their
> life. Even gravel will still prove preferable for many "plant spawners" to
> mops.
>
> It is easy to spend another person's time and money, but I'll bet if you
> pulled the Corys, fed your australe well for a week, and pulled them to
> another tank, in 2-3 weeks you would start to see fry in that planted tank.
>
> As for the brown algae, can you provide more light? The higher plants will
> be at a competitive advantage, absorbing more nutrients. The ever unpopular
> water changes can help too. In the meantime, buy a killie person's algae
> eater - an inexpensive, soapless, plastic pot scrubber on your next grocery
> run. Rinse it well and dedicate it to the cause. (They also sterilize in
> bleach easily too.)
>
> All the best!
>
> Scott
>
> > *sigh* still no eggs with my AUS. I separated them and started feeding
> live
> > worms for several days. No eggs at all in the mops after 48 hours
> together.
> > I actually don't want to breed them now since in a couple weeks I'll be
> > away. Any other ideas are welcome for when I return...
> >
> > Anyway, I also am fighting a huge brown (diatom?) algae bloom. I think
> it's
> > caused by the floating plants and peat causing low light conditions. How
> do
> > you keep floating plants and low light conditions with killies and keep
> this
> > brown crud away?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sherry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:29:19 -0400
> From: "Jay-Scott Moylan" <moylan at emi_net>
> Subject: Re: A. striatum Cape Esterias
>
> Hi,
>
> I am in West Palm Beach, FL. I sure am interested in those guys.
> What arrangements?
>
> Jay
>
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> From: "Steve & Deb Serbousek" <windigo at win_bright.net>
> To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: A. striatum Cape Esterias
>
> > Dear Jay,
> >
> > I have a couple of males. But I don't know if I can ship. We had snow
> > flurries yesterday, however, we are supposed to warm up next week. Where
> > are you at?
> >
> > Deb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay-Scott Moylan" <moylan at emi_net>
> > To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 10:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: A. striatum Cape Esterias
> >
> >
> > > Help You Guys!
> > >
> > > I just love my Aphyosemion striatum Cape Esterias (Note: no
> > > three-letter abbrev.), but I have a problem. My last male just jumped!
> > (He
> > > wasn't much good at breeding, but he was all I was left with.) Now I
> have
> > > four healthy, lonely widows who need companionship. Is there anyone who
> > can
> > > spare a couple of males to a good home?
> > >
> > > Jay Moylan
> > >
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> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:32:18 -0400
> From: "Jay-Scott Moylan" <moylan at emi_net>
> Subject: Re: Hard times . . . Anyone want to trade?
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> Grant,
>
> Fp. sjoestedti are mop spawners. You just need the mop on the =
> bottom. If your new mops don't sink readily, tie them to a non-toxic =
> fishing sinker. When I spawned them some years ago, I had a pair in a =
> 10 gal with a couple of huge mops. They seemed to do fine.
>
> Jay Moylan
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: -----Cypher-----=20
> To: KillieTalk at aka_org=20
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:29 PM
> Subject: Hard times . . . Anyone want to trade?
>
> Well heres my story I got my fish today Fundulopanchax sjoestedti =
> thinking they were a mop spawner and now I find out they aren't!!!!! So =
> I am really bummed right now, im not ready for bottom spawners so I =
> can't do them. : ( so if there is anyone out there that would be so =
> kind as to trade me for my pair of Fundulopanchax sjoestedti for a =
> good mop spawning fish I would be so greatful.
> THANX AGAIN!
> C - Y - P - H - E - R=20
> (a.k.a. Grant Baker)
> www.cromas.net/cypher
> cypher at cromas_net
> "When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."
> -Thomas Jefferson
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Grant,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
> Fp.=20
> sjoestedti are mop spawners. You just need the mop on the =
> bottom. If=20
> your new mops don't sink readily, tie them to a non-toxic fishing =
> sinker. =20
> When I spawned them some years ago, I had a pair in a 10 gal with a =
> couple of=20
> huge mops. They seemed to do fine.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay Moylan</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dcypher at cromas_net=20
> href=3D"mailto:cypher at cromas_net">-----Cypher-----</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3DKillieTalk at aka_org=20
> href=3D"mailto:KillieTalk at aka_org">KillieTalk at aka_org</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 07, =
> 2000 7:29=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Hard times . . . =
> Anyone want to=20
> trade?</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080>Well heres my =
> story I got my=20
> fish today Fundulopanchax sjoestedti thinking they were a mop spawner =
> and now=20
> I find out they aren't!!!!! So I am really bummed right now, im not =
> ready for=20
> bottom spawners so I can't do them. : ( so if there =
> is=20
> anyone out there that would be so kind as to trade me for my pair =
> of =20
> Fundulopanchax sjoestedti for a good mop spawning fish I =
> would be=20
> so greatful.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>THANX =
> AGAIN!</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>C - Y - P - H - E - =
> R <BR>(a.k.a.=20
> Grant Baker)<BR><A=20
> href=3D"http://www.cromas.net/cypher">www.cromas.net/cypher</A><BR><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:cypher at cromas_net">cypher at cromas_net</A><BR>"When you =
> reach the=20
> end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."<BR>-Thomas=20
> Jefferson</FONT></DIV>
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> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:51:41 -0400
> From: "Jay-Scott Moylan" <moylan at emi_net>
> Subject: Re: Eggs floating Eggs Sinking?
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> Hi Grant,
>
> I never had an egg float, so I can't remark on that. I would =
> not be surprised if these eggs prove infertile. I have had many fish =
> release eggs when stressed, but the male doesn't get to fertilize them. =
> They may all fungus up. On the other hand, maybe you got off to a lucky =
> start with them! At any rate, she proved she is indeed old enough to =
> produce eggs! With good diet and water, you should get positive results =
> in no time. Good Luck.
>
> Jay Moylan
>
> ________________________
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: -----Cypher-----=20
> To: KillieTalk at aka_org=20
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:39 PM
> Subject: Eggs floating Eggs Sinking?
>
> Ok guys I have only had my fish for hours yet when I was tanking the =
> gravel out of there side of the tank I picked up the mop and noticed 3 =
> eggs I took them and put them in my margarine dish half full of water =
> with some egg gaurd and a sprig of java moss. Now what happened was 1 =
> egg is floating and the other 2 sank to the bottom. Any one know what =
> this means?
> C - Y - P - H - E - R=20
> (a.k.a. Grant Baker)
> www.cromas.net/cypher
> cypher at cromas_net
> "When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."
> -Thomas Jefferson
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Grant,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I =
> never had=20
> an egg float, so I can't remark on that. I would not be surprised =
> if these=20
> eggs prove infertile. I have had many fish release eggs when =
> stressed, but=20
> the male doesn't get to fertilize them. They may all fungus =
> up. On=20
> the other hand, maybe you got off to a lucky start with them! At =
> any rate,=20
> she proved she is indeed old enough to produce eggs! With good =
> diet and=20
> water, you should get positive results in no time. Good =
> Luck.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jay Moylan</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>________________________</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV=20
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> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dcypher at cromas_net=20
> href=3D"mailto:cypher at cromas_net">-----Cypher-----</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3DKillieTalk at aka_org=20
> href=3D"mailto:KillieTalk at aka_org">KillieTalk at aka_org</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 08, 2000 =
> 12:39=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Eggs floating Eggs=20
> Sinking?</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Ok guys I have only =
> had my fish=20
> for hours yet when I was tanking the gravel out of there side of =
> the tank=20
> I picked up the mop and noticed 3 eggs I took them and put them =
> in my=20
> margarine dish half full of water with some egg gaurd and a sprig of =
> java=20
> moss. Now what happened was 1 egg is floating and the other 2 sank to =
> the=20
> bottom. Any one know what this means?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3D#000080 size=3D2>C - Y - P - H - E - =
> R <BR>(a.k.a.=20
> Grant Baker)<BR><A=20
> href=3D"http://www.cromas.net/cypher">www.cromas.net/cypher</A><BR><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:cypher at cromas_net">cypher at cromas_net</A><BR>"When you =
> reach the=20
> end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."<BR>-Thomas=20
> Jefferson</FONT></DIV>
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> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:20:25 EDT
> From: LeeH920226 at aol_com
> Subject: Re: Eggs floating Eggs Sinking?
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> In a message dated 10/8/00 12:42:53 PM, cypher at cromas_net writes:
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> << Now what happened was 1 egg is floating and the other 2 sank to the bottom
> >>
>
> Good eggs will always sink, unless caught in surface tension of the water. If
> you cannot sink it, what you have floating is something else, either a
> decaying dead egg or something other than an egg. Is it round, clear, about
> 1.5 mm in diameter and either colorless or slightly amber? If not, it is not
> a living Blue Gularis egg.
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> Lee Harper
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