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RE: Electrical noise (was Re: a note about the hanna TDS meters)



Sorry guys Killies are a small part of my hatchery.
Killies are my "pet" fish so to speak. Most of my
tanks are for breeding Discus, Apistos, and Angels.
The Killies are my new challenge and a really fun fish
I have fallin in love with. After doing Cichlids for
the last 15 + years I am just ready for something new.
It's cool to see male killies have the same tenacity
as a dominant male Cichlid. So much energy in such a
small package.


Dave



--- "Stoecker,Michael,FRANKLIN PARK,NC&C"
<michael.stoecker at us_nestle.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
> That is impressive!
> How many are devoted to killies, others, food, etc.?
> mike
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	David Sanchez [SMTP:barbax2 at yahoo_com]
> > Sent:	Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:10 AM
> > To:	killietalk at aka_org
> > Subject:	Re: Electrical noise (was Re: a note
> about the hanna TDS
> > meters)
> > 
> > Quite a few, 400+ and counting  and numerous vats.
> The
> > blower is loud and thats why I excepted their
> > explanation easily. However upon further thought
> with
> > all the electronic ballasts I have electrical
> > interference makes more sense.
> > 
> > Dave Sanchez
> > 
> > --- james graham <busterg at voyager_net> wrote:
> > > Dave,
> > >    How many tanks are you running, I can't
> imagine
> > > running a 1hp blower.
> > > Jim Graham
> > > Hastings, MI
> > >   
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: David Sanchez <barbax2 at yahoo_com>
> > > To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Electrical noise (was Re: a note
> about
> > > the hanna TDS meters)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > LOL I know its an inexpensive meter even
> though I
> > > paid
> > > > $400 for it. The high quality bench meters are
> all
> > > > over $1000 but unrealistic for me! electric
> fields
> > > 
> > > > Good point I also have a ton of flourescent
> lights
> > > all
> > > > over my fishroom. Seems to make sense. It is a
> 1hp
> > > > blower and very loud so I thought that would
> be
> > > the
> > > > case. Synergy may be at work here just a host
> of
> > > > electrical interference.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Dave
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- Wright Huntley <huntley1 at home_com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > David Sanchez wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Just a quick note I get wierd readings
> from my
> > > > > > counductivity meter when I use it next to
> my
> > > > > Blower in
> > > > > > my hatchery. I contacted tech support and
> was
> > > told
> > > > > > that loud noises and vibrations can effect
> the
> > > > > > readings. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <VBG> They most likely identified the wrong
> > > culprit.
> > > > > A conductivity meter is
> > > > > a high-input-impedance ac ohm meter, and can
> be
> > > very
> > > > > sensitive to external
> > > > > electric fields if not shielded well. The
> blower
> > > > > motor is an electrically
> > > > > noisy device. Try putting a portable AM
> radio
> > > near
> > > > > it, tuned to a weak
> > > > > station.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have chronic problems with electronic
> noise
> > > from
> > > > > all the small compact
> > > > > fluorescent lamps I use (cheap ballasts,
> that
> > > is).
> > > > > They could do a number on
> > > > > the reading, just as they jam my X10 control
> > > > > systems, sometimes. I use the
> > > > > AM radio trick to locate the worst ones, and
> > > either
> > > > > retire them or put them
> > > > > on circuits with better filtering.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I take a sample and read it away from my
> > > > > > blower and no problem. I have an Oakton
> meter
> > > BTW.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Probably none of the inexpensive meters is
> > > totally
> > > > > free from this problem,
> > > > > but I have not noticed the lamps bothering
> my
> > > new
> > > > > Hanna TDS 1, yet. I'll
> > > > > certainly watch for it, now that you have
> warned
> > > us.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Wright
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Wright Huntley, Fremont CA, USA, 510
> 494-8679 
> > > > > huntleyone at home dot com
> > > > > 
> > > > >           If it ain't broke, don't fix it --
> > > and,
> > > > > especially,
> > > > >             don't let politicians fix it.
> ...
> > > Thomas
> > > > > Sowell
> > > > > 
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