Re: Calm down

[charley cvercko <lissener at yahoo_com>]

I'm relatively new to this list, and relatively
inexperienced with killies, but I have a great deal of
experience and knowledge of aquarium matters in general,
and even more editorial and publishing experience. I'd like
to volunteer to assist with the BNL in any way I can.

--Charley Cvercko
Seattle

--- Barry Cooper <bjc3 at cornell_edu> wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> I am concerned about the sniping that I have seen
> occurring on this list 
> over the last week or so. Most of this has arisen because
> a few people are 
> unhappy with the late delivery of the BNL and choose to
> use a belligerent 
> approach in a public forum to complain about it. It is
> perfectly acceptable 
> to discuss issues related to AKA services on this forum,
> but it is 
> completely unacceptable to send insulting messages to do
> so. If you wish to 
> offer constructive criticism, that is welcome. If you
> wish to attack an 
> individual, do it in a private email. If you have
> complaints about a 
> particular individual doing a particular job for the AKA,
> contact the BOT 
> but do not post the complaints in a public forum.
> 
> I am reluctant to move aggressively against people
> posting such distasteful 
> complaints because I don't want to subscribe to the
> paranoia that "if you 
> say something bad about the AKA, they take you off". That
> is not the case 
> at all, but I, and I think most of the subscribers to
> killietalk, expect 
> criticism to be expressed in civil tones.
> 
> I am not sure of the motives of these few people (I'm
> sure most of you have 
> noticed who they are) but in the end they just show their
> own ignorance and 
> lack of common courtesy. This can be considered a warning
> against such 
> behavior. If it does not stop I will warn the
> perpetrators once, then 
> remove them if the behavior persists. Please also resist
> the urge to send 
> back a nasty response to such messages. That only feeds
> the behavior.
> 
> I will make a comment about the delivery of the BNL.
> First, the delivery of 
> the BNL is the culmination of a lot of work from several
> people who do it 
> as volunteers. They do their best but occasionally they
> have problems that 
> cause delays. It is easy to say "replace them", but it is
> difficult if not 
> impossible to find someone who will do it, and do it
> better. In recent 
> years email has become the de facto way of communicating
> the information 
> amongst those who work on the BNL. This is not merely a
> matter of 
> convenience. By using email we can accept ads and notices
> on a shorter 
> deadline. We could go back to mailing a list of fish for
> the F&EL, for 
> example, which could then be retyped and mailed to the
> printer. I don't 
> think it takes much imagination to see what that would do
> to the delay 
> between submitting an ad and its appearance. There is no
> doubt that the AKA 
> should strive to deliver the BNL and JAKA on time. If you
> have constructive 
> suggestions about that please air them here or forward
> them in some other 
> way to the BOT for consideration. The BOT has been
> discussing such 
> suggestions and has urged everyone concerned, including
> the general 
> membership, to get their information submitted on time.
> In the big picture, 
> late submission is the major reason for delays of the
> BNL.
> 
> Barry Cooper
> Barry J. Cooper, Prof., Dept. Biomedical Sciences,
> Cornell University
> Current address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd.
> Sweet Home, OR 97386 (bjc3 at cornell_edu)
> 
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