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Re: Species maintenance ideas Reward the Affilate clubs and their members.
<chuckles loudly> err opps sorry!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Anderson" <killiman at indy_net>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Species maintenance ideas Reward the Affilate clubs and their
members.
> As a gesture to get some interest in the program and also get the local
> level clubs to participate. Each club that supports the program and sends
in
> monthly reports gets a case of brine shrimp eggs compliments of the AKA.
> These eggs are to be dispersed to the club members that support it.
>
> Damn few want to do something for nothing. I feel this is the real reason
> that there are no true efforts being made at species Maint. there are no
> rewards. I think Wright is on the right track and I like the efforts that
> Mr. Grady is making. We need a lot more Toms.
>
>
>
>
> Al Anderson
> killiman at indy_net
> 317 253 2170
> 317 466 1615 FAX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wright Huntley" <huntley1 at home_com>
> To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Species maintenance ideas
>
>
> > Thanks, Lee, for inviting input.
> >
> > Here's some FWIW.
> >
> > LeeH920226 at aol_com wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/15/2000 12:41:39 PM, dkarpawi at indiana_edu writes:
> > >
> > > << SMC/KCC with two primary responsibilities: >>
> > >
> > > The SMC (Species Maintenance Committee - Tom Grady) keeps a database
of
> the
> > > fish that are being kept/maintained in the hobby. There is also a
> database
> > > tracking aspect of this that helps identify, over time, changes in
what
> fish
> > > are or are not being maintained compared with prior years. There will
be
> an
> > > updated publication of the status this summer.
> >
> > I think this is a fine thing for us to be supporting.
> >
> > I suggest that every affiliate club compile a list of fish known to be
in
> > their area in the last year (not just members, BTW), plus a list of what
> > they have auctioned in the last year or two. That compilation can be
sent
> to
> > Tom annually, and will be a lot easier than trying to get about a
thousand
> > members to respond. [That's about like getting them to vote! :-)]
> >
> > I believe in the case of BAKA, we have done that already, but the
> anonymity
> > was kept at the local information-gatherer's site and not forwarded to
> Tom,
> > AFAIK. Believe me when I say that it will be many years before most
> > experienced folks will trust AKA with private information. A few bad
> apples
> > are mighty hard to live down. A local individual is bound to be more
> easily
> > trusted for this function.
> >
> > > The KCC (Killifish Conservation Committee- Art Leuterman) is newly
> reformed
> > > (within the last 2 years) and is based on a proposal by a study group
> headed
> > > by Charles Nunziata. The current strategy is still being formulated.
> > > Volunteers and suggestions are needed.
> >
> > I like the old process of defining core species of pretty, easy, but
> > likely-to-be-lost collections, and getting a few breeders each to
promise
> to
> > keep them going for a year or two. IMHO, expecting them to do it for
much
> > longer than that is neither fair nor very good for the fish. Life
changes,
> > and so do our fishrooms. Recruiting good new ones is the trick.
> >
> > As I recall there was a genus or type coordinator who was supposed to
take
> > the lead in recruiting species coordinators who were expected to find
> their
> > own breeder/helpers with the species they chose. This may be where the
> > system fell apart. Once going, they were not very active in recruiting
> that
> > next bunch of sucke.. oops, volunteers. ;-)
> >
> > Rather than have a person be the coordinator for the genus, I would
> suggest
> > we enlist the affiliates in this task. Let each local club take
> > responsibility for a major group, at first, and then let them organize
the
> > genus/species coordination. Maybe the genus coordinators would mostly be
> > active local club members, but species coordinators and breeders
recruited
> > more widely from their friends in AKA and even elsewhere.
> >
> > A little competition between clubs could be a fun way to put a bit of
> drive
> > into the effort, with recognition at the convention and in BNL/JAKA of
> > outstanding work by the better ones. Defining the competitive tasks
would
> be
> > a great way to put a bit more written structure into the program.
Reports
> > filed, species counts, program improvements, etc. might all be fair game
> for
> > awards.
> >
> > Getting written descriptions of the function and operation of KCC has
been
> a
> > really frustrating phenomenon, for me. I *know* this part can be done
> better
> > than it is now. It has severely hampered me in recruiting much-needed
> > breeders. No one commits a huge percentage of his fishroom to a nebulous
> > group with shifting priorities and poor communication. It ain't rocket
> > science, folks.
> >
> > We have also been buying "outside genes" out of our own pockets, which
> isn't
> > cheap when we have to import from Europe. The local affiliates could
plan
> to
> > spend a few bucks in this area to support "their" group. I suggest them
> > rather than AKA because they have the information to know where the fish
> > will be housed best, etc.
> >
> > If you think all this is a subtle suggestion that the organization of
AKA
> > needs to be modernized, perish the thought. I don't want to introduce
any
> > such gloomy thoughts into a really fun thread. (^_^; [That's the same
as
> > the (^_^) smiley, but sweating.]
> >
> > Wright
> >
> > --
> > Wright Huntley, Fremont CA, USA, 510 494-8679 huntleyone at home dot
com
> >
> > It was all for naught. Taxation with representation sucks too!
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