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Tubifix.
Theese worms are having a high concentration of haemoglobin in them, which make them capable to live in polluted and oxygen-low water. That does not mean that they dont live in clean water too, but it is in their favour to live where only few other species can live.
Oxygen-low water does not necessarily means polluted water. It can be caused by decomposited spots in the water with lots of organic material.
So make sure why there are a big concentration of tubifix before you use them!
Martin.
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> KillieTalk Digest Monday, May 29 2000 Volume 03 : Number 306
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> In this issue:
>
> Re: tubifex cleaning
> bam-a-flavine
> cloudy water, Dick Powel's KAK file
> Re: cloudy water
> test
> Re: cloudy water
> Kak virus
> Re: bam-a-flavine
> what the ----is a PDF
> Killie Eggs
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> Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 21:20:41 -0700
> From: Jeremy Adams <killifish at home_com>
> Subject: Re: tubifex cleaning
>
> > Innes also mentions that these worms are also found in pretty filthy
> > water conditions. Where did you find yours? I know there has been a
> > discussion within the past few months about the safety of feeding these
> > worms, but I don't think a consensus was reached.
> >
> >
> mine were found in somewhat filthy conditions. It is a drainage pond on
> a sheep pasture. It is a small pond and the volume of sheep is low. I
> occasionally see a sheep poop floating by. I have never seen them there
> before, but I never really looked. I noticed that in one especially
> shallow spot that the ground was reddish. I figured that this was a
> concentration of dead red daphnia. This happens a lot in this pond as
> the water dries up. But when I investigated I was surprised to see live
> tubifex. I scooped up about 4 cups of muck and I have separated out at
> least 1/2 a cup of pure tubifex so far. There are still millions of them
> living in the muck.
>
> I rinsed all of the loose mud away from the worms and have had them
> sitting under running water for 2 days now. The rest are so inter twined
> with the decaying vegetation that I cannot separate them unless they
> clump (which they are doing at a slow rate).
>
> This pond dries up every year and I have been feeding daphnia from this
> pond to my fish for years. There are never any fish present. Based on
> this I am assuming that the worms are safe to feed my fish. We'll se if
> they croak.
>
> Jeremy
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> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 00:31:52 EDT
> From: LandRover47 at aol_com
> Subject: bam-a-flavine
>
> Hi, Following the recomendations of the beginners guide I can`t seem to
> locate this product locally. My local dealer recomended methylene blue. Read
> that it does not work .I have some fuzzy eggs and plan to pick again soon.
> Any help would be greatly recieved.
>
> Jim Randall Albany NY.
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> Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 23:57:45 -0500
> From: "Scott Davis" <unclescott at prodigy_net>
> Subject: cloudy water, Dick Powel's KAK file
>
> Well our favorite worm is back again. Dick and the rest of us will want to
> go to find, search for KAK and delete that sucker. I guess the MS patch just
> keeps it at home in one's computer. Hopefully it is not going out with this
> posting, having been already deleted here.
>
> Dick are you the former editor of the Minnesota A.S. publication? I
> remember some wonderful articles and issues from some years back. As is
> often the result of great work done, we don't say thanks enought. But we do
> remember to remind you about a lousy computer glitch.
>
> All the best!
>
> Scott
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> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 01:08:38 -0400
> From: "Mr. Fish" <mrfish at ix_netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: cloudy water
>
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> Sandra and Allen wrote:
>
> > Any ideas on how to clear up/ prevent cloudy water.It is a milky
> > white, but very light.2.5 gal. aquarium.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Boat
> >
>
> Put some gravel in from an established tank
>
>
>
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> <html>
> <body lang="EN-US" style="tab-interval:.5in">
> Sandra and Allen wrote:
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> <div class="MsoNormal"><span class=EmailStyle16><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Any
> ideas on how to clear up/ prevent cloudy water.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span>It
> is a milky white, but very light.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span>2.5
> gal. aquarium.</font></font></font><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class=EmailStyle16><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></span>
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> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class=EmailStyle16><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Thanks,</font></font></font><o:p></o:p></span></span>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class=EmailStyle16><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Boat</font></font></font><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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> <p><br>Put some gravel in from an established tank
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
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> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 02:01:48 -0400
> From: "Sandra and Allen" <boatman at brill_acomp.usf.edu>
> Subject: test
>
> I have changed from HTML format to plain text, I hope this settles the
> hieroglyphic crap. Trust me it was bugging me too, as I get the Digest.
>
> Boat
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 08:20:25 +0200
> From: "Tyrone Genade" <12860379 at narga_sun.ac.za>
> Subject: Re: cloudy water
>
> Hi Allen
>
> Welcome to the wonderful world of killies!
>
> Firstly, the correct name is Fundulopanchax fallax (as was hinted by some one).
>
> Secondly, add some plants to the tank. Make the fish feel comfortable or they are going to try and escape.
>
> Thirdly, stay away from all these bacterial supplements. They are a waist of time and money. Take from
> filter wool/gravel/ or what ever you have in your mature filter and add it to the new tank's filter. This
> works best.
> I doubt the cloudy water can be from a microrganism bloom so soon. Check water quality from the tap.
> Often fresh water tends to have chemicals which can precipitate forming a white cloud (at least this is true
> in SA where the water has high concentrations of Al3+). The water treatment you are using for the chloro
> my be cross reacting with something.
>
> If the fish are fine then don't worry. The filter should filter out the cloudyness. Just make sure the NH3
> and NO2- reading stay low to none.
>
> Enjoy your fish.
> Tyrone
>
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>
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> Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 23:22:46 -0700
> From: "Clint Venable" <kg6ch at gte_net>
> Subject: Kak virus
>
> I keep seeing the Kak virus coming over this list. Several members must be
> infected. After you have posted to the list, look at your signature and see
> if the virus has attachted itself to your message. Some of you really need
> to run Microsoft Critical Update and get new virus definitions from your
> virus checker.
> Also, I hate to bitch ( :-) ) but it would really help if everyone could
> post in plain text (turn off html in your browser for the duration of your
> message).
> Clint Venable
> Alta Loma, CA
>
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> Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 23:22:18 PDT
> From: "Debbie Moore" <dmoore57 at hotmail_com>
> Subject: Re: bam-a-flavine
>
> >From: LandRover47 at aol_com
> >Reply-To: killietalk at aka_org
> >To: killietalk at aka_org
> >Subject: bam-a-flavine
> >Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 00:31:52 EDT
> >
> >Hi, Following the recomendations of the beginners guide I can`t seem to
> >locate this product locally. My local dealer recomended methylene blue.
> >Read
> >that it does not work .I have some fuzzy eggs and plan to pick again soon.
> >Any help would be greatly recieved.
> >
> > Jim Randall Albany NY.
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> An alternative product that servers the same purpose is malachite green
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> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 02:28:11 -0400 (EDT)
> From: meheindl at webtv_net (mark heindl)
> Subject: what the ----is a PDF
>
> I AM VERY UP SET THAT I NOW CAN NOT GET IN TOTHE F& E LISTING.I DO NOT
> KNOW COMPUTERS VERY WELL.THE COMPUTER I HAD WENT TO COLLEGE WITH MY
> THREE KIDS .CAN NOT AFFORD ANOTHER ONE. SO I BOUGHT WEB TV,IT WILL NOT
> WORK IN THE FISH AND EGG LISTING.BEFORE THE PDF I COULD GO IN AND LOOK
> AT THE LISTING.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAD TO CHANGE. I AM VERY UPSET
> IF ANY BODY CARESI AM A MEMBER BUT NOW I AM LOCKED OUT. WHY WHY WHY WHY
> WHY WHY WHY
>
> MARK HEINDL 169 CLINE AVE
> HURRICANE. WEST VIRGINA 25526
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> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:55:21 +0800
> From: Richard Baey <nwsing at pacific_net.sg>
> Subject: Killie Eggs
>
> Hi
>
> I am new to the killie world. I intend to get some eggs and raise some
> fry. What is the ideal temperature for the eggs to hatch and usually how
> long will it takes? Does the temperature and hatching periods differ
> from species to species? Our climate here is quite warm (average 32 - 33
> C), I wonder it is suitable for killies? Also, what preventions can I
> used to avoid fungus on the eggs?
>
> Any advice will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Richard Baey
> Sunny Singapore
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