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Re: new AKA roster & KMI

To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: Re: new AKA roster & KMI
From: "Elard Herrera" <elard_herrera at hotmail_com>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:54:48 PST
hi I am from Peru and i love killis but i only have a variety of them i 
think they are comun because i see them in all the pages, they are blue with 
red and yellow points i will be glad if you can help me to reproduce them 
and if you teach me about other varieties and i will be very very glad if 
you can sell me new varieties,please please here only have one variety .i 
read that they can buy in eggs if you think that you can help me or not 
please answer me.thanks for all,your friend in Peru ...Elard Herrera

>From: "Karl Doering" <kilikarl at bignet_net>
>Reply-To: killietalk at aka_org
>To: <killietalk at aka_org>
>Subject: Re: new AKA roster & KMI
>Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:05:21 -0500
>
>The point was new members were posted in the BNL every few months.By other
>member chairman are you going to discontinue this practice???
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Bulterman <jbulterman at earthlink_net>
>To: killietalk at aka_org <killietalk at aka_org>
>Date: Friday, March 24, 2000 10:35 AM
>Subject: Re: new AKA roster & KMI
>
>
> >I'm all for treating all members the same.  But the facts is that people
> >with computers and internet experience have a leg up in this
> >post-information age.  Whether that is fair or not does not burden my
> >conscience - that is simply the way it is.  I will not significantly
> >increase my volunteer workload to accommodate those who choose not to 
>catch
> >the last plane out (for whatever reason).  But I will accept all help 
>from
> >those who think that things aren't fair.
> >
> >Joe Bulterman, AKA Membership Committee
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Karl Doering <kilikarl at bignet_net>
> >To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> >Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 10:19 AM
> >Subject: Re: new AKA roster & KMI
> >
> >
> >> Are we thinking about putting this roster up dates in the BNL for our
>none
> >> computer members They pay the same yearly due's??
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joe Bulterman <jbulterman at earthlink_net>
> >> To: killietalk at aka_org <killietalk at aka_org>
> >> Date: Friday, March 24, 2000 9:57 AM
> >> Subject: Re: new AKA roster & KMI
> >>
> >>
> >> >Thank you for your willingness to help.  I am all for it.  I current 
>use
> >> >Access 2000 to maintain the database and save it to an Access 97 
>version
> >> for
> >> >transmittal to BOT members.
> >> >What should be our first step?
> >> >
> >> >Joe Bulterman, AKA Membership Committee
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: William Vannerson <William_Vannerson at ama-assn_org>
> >> >To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> >> >Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 9:22 AM
> >> >Subject: Re: new AKA roster & KMI
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> The current On-Line roster on the AKA web site is of nominal value.
> >That
> >> >is not a slur against Barry or the BOT that approved it at the time.
>But
> >> >rather, it is a reflection of the data in it.  If the data is old or
> >> >incomplete, it's not very valuable as a resource. It's also a 
>redundant
> >> >system as AKA members report their demographic information on their
> >> >application and then have to report it on the web site.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would propose an electronic roster that's distributed periodically
>to
> >> >members only.  I don't know the software Joe uses to track members, 
>but
> >I'd
> >> >guess it runs under DOS or windows.  It would be a relatively easy 
>task
> >to
> >> >print a roster report to an Acrobat PDF file (I know we've debated the
> >> >merits of that software before, but bear with me).
> >> >>
> >> >> An email list could be set up so that Joe, or someone designated,
>could
> >> >broadcast the file as an attachment to AKA members wishing to receive
> >this
> >> >file.
> >> >>
> >> >> These members could then keep the file on their computer, or print 
>out
> >a
> >> >hard copy at home if they wish.  The cost of distributing updates 
>under
> >> this
> >> >strategy is almost nothing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Personally, I would love to get the data in a databse type of file
>that
> >I
> >> >could then import into my address book.  But an electronic text report
>is
> >a
> >> >workable comprimise.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would be willing to work with Joe to develop the report and
>procedure
> >> if
> >> >the BOT is interested in a pilot/sample.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, Karl's comments on the KMI strikes home as well.  I can truly
> >> >appreciate the amoung of labor involved in producing this tome.  
>Again,
> >my
> >> >computer background sceams to me that this should be loaded into a
> >database
> >> >application, like the memebership database (if it isn't already loaded
> >into
> >> >one).  Then incrimental updates in an electronic format can be 
>provided
> >> with
> >> >less effort than it takes to produce a printed volume.  I beleive that
> >many
> >> >folks would gladly subscribe to such a product.  I know I would pay an
> >> >annual fee to get a new release of the KMI on CD-ROM every year. Such 
>a
> >> >model increases the cash flow from regular, annual subscribers at a
> >reduced
> >> >production cost.  PLus, it gets the latest information into the kellie
> >> >keepers hands, thereby making it easier to use accurate names.
> >> >>
> >> >> In both examples, the membership roster and the KMI, I would stress
> >that
> >> a
> >> >printed version is still needed.  Not only for those without PCs, but 
>it
> >is
> >> >often easier to pick up a book.  People still like the tactile feel of
> >> paper
> >> >in their hands, myself included. :-)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill Vannerson
> >> >> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson
> >> >>
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