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Re: Mysterious death



The female survived didn't it ? Surely enough chloramine to wipe males, will
also wipe females?

jules
----- Original Message -----
From: Wright Huntley <huntley1 at home_com>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: 20 March 2000 04:46
Subject: Re: Mysterious death


>
>
> Joe Bulterman wrote:
> >
> > Chloramine has always claimed my fish in days rather than weeks but I
have
> > found that Amquel works well in rendering it harmless.
>
> > phoenix kiss wrote:
> > >
> > >     Could somebody please tell me what just happend here?  I aquierd 3
> > > Northobrancious Rachovi (excuse my spelling errors, not my forte) from
a
> > > very reputable breeder and now 3 weeks later my males are dead.
>
> snip...
>
> I have found Nothos to be more than a little sensitive to any form of
> chlorine. They also don't handle any faintly-measurable level of ammonia.
>
> I agree with Joe that the most common thing is immediate inverted swimming
> attitude. It's often minutes or hours, rather than days. If the levels
were
> marginal, it could take a couple of water changes to reach a high enough
> concentration (or enough gill damage) to do the job.
>
> My somewhat offhand, one word, comment was based mostly on the retained
> color report. That seems to go with chlorine or ammonia toxicity, doesn't
> it?
>
> I find local fish stores still pushing hypo-based dechlor products, even
> years after their water was switched to chloramine anti-bacterial
treatment.
> The surge in ammonia after a water change can be quite deadly to more
> sensitive fish.
>
> Amquel works perfectly (and is very cheap by mail order). I think Prime
and
> Ammo Lock 2 do a good job on chloramine (though I rarely use them). With
the
> EPA forcing chloramine on more and more water departments, there is no
> excuse, whatsoever, to damage your fish with the old dechlor products
based
> on sodium hypochlorite (photographer's hypo).
>
> Read the label. If it says the product will "break the chlorine ammonia
> bond," you can be quite sure it will eventually kill your Nothos if your
> water has any chloramine. It will also stunt your other fish, miserably,
> unless you aways keep pH well below 7.
>
> Wright
>
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