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Re: Mysterious death





Joe Bulterman wrote:
> 
> Chloramine has always claimed my fish in days rather than weeks but I have
> found that Amquel works well in rendering it harmless.

> phoenix kiss wrote:
> >
> >     Could somebody please tell me what just happend here?  I aquierd 3
> > Northobrancious Rachovi (excuse my spelling errors, not my forte) from a
> > very reputable breeder and now 3 weeks later my males are dead. 

snip... 

I have found Nothos to be more than a little sensitive to any form of
chlorine. They also don't handle any faintly-measurable level of ammonia.

I agree with Joe that the most common thing is immediate inverted swimming
attitude. It's often minutes or hours, rather than days. If the levels were
marginal, it could take a couple of water changes to reach a high enough
concentration (or enough gill damage) to do the job.

My somewhat offhand, one word, comment was based mostly on the retained
color report. That seems to go with chlorine or ammonia toxicity, doesn't
it?

I find local fish stores still pushing hypo-based dechlor products, even
years after their water was switched to chloramine anti-bacterial treatment.
The surge in ammonia after a water change can be quite deadly to more
sensitive fish.

Amquel works perfectly (and is very cheap by mail order). I think Prime and
Ammo Lock 2 do a good job on chloramine (though I rarely use them). With the
EPA forcing chloramine on more and more water departments, there is no
excuse, whatsoever, to damage your fish with the old dechlor products based
on sodium hypochlorite (photographer's hypo).

Read the label. If it says the product will "break the chlorine ammonia
bond," you can be quite sure it will eventually kill your Nothos if your
water has any chloramine. It will also stunt your other fish, miserably,
unless you aways keep pH well below 7.

Wright

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