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Re: NFC: Re: "The Burbs"

First we'll screw the Colorado some more...
Then, we'll move to suck more water out of the delta to move south...
Finally, we'll tax the heck out of folks to open up desal plants...
But we won't stop development, I'll bet a Happy Meal on it!

On 3/12/02 1:17 PM, "Wally Billingham" <wallybillingham at wallybillingham_com>
wrote:

> They will care when the water runs out. They thought losing power was bad,
> what about having no water?
> 
> Wally
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jake levi <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
> To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: NFC: Re: "The Burbs"
> 
> 
>> Then you remember Escondido as a pretty little town.
>> My big complaint is the irrigating of ornamentals for
>> artificial aesthetics. I also still get heartburn from
>> the irrigated cotton around Phoenix. The oranges of
>> orange cnty have been yanked out and replaced with
>> higher selling avocadoes which are now over producing
>> so they trash millions of lbs every year. Urban sprawl
>> is another major mess and its also drawing down the
>> aquifirs.
>> 
>> and no-one gives a damn. at least not enough to do
>> anything about or for it. The politicians are the last
>> ones who are going to open thier yellow mealymouths.
>> jake
>> --- David Meyers <dmeyers at salts_navy.mil> wrote:
>>> It isn't just Southern California...
>>> Take a look at Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tuscon.
>>> Take a look at the rice fields of northern
>>> California, the cotton fields of
>>> Central Califonia, the tomatoes out in Yuma - these
>>> are all damaging the
>>> environment in one way or another.
>>> Urban sprawl in Georgia and the Carolinas around
>>> every lake and river...
>>> Hawaii itself...enough exotics there to ensure mass
>>> extinction...
>>> We can go on and on, the problem is sprawl - instead
>>> of recycling land -
>>> urban blight areas, we find it easier to go to
>>> undeveloped or agricultural
>>> land to build...away from all that.  When I first
>>> showed up in San Diego in
>>> 66, it was mostly farm and ranch land, and the
>>> problems you detail below,
>>> were quite insignificant - that has all changed now.
>>> David
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/12/02 6:55 AM, "jake levi" <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Arlus, one correction,
>>>> you should have written all of Southern California
>>> and
>>>> much of Central. The irrigation of ice plants and
>>>> other exotics on highway medians is a disgrace.
>>>> California has a 'mediteranean' climate and they
>>> want
>>>> it to be Hawaii.
>>>> The water isnot there to do it so they are
>>> draining
>>>> much of the western aquifer for ornamental
>>> irrigation.
>>>> 
>>>> The national disgrace is about to become a
>>> national
>>>> disaster.
>>>> jake
>>>> --- Arlus Farnsworth <arlusf at cwnet_com> wrote:
>>>>> Just a quick comment... suburbia is known to
>>> replace
>>>>> native vegetation
>>>>> with imported exotics, usually not palatable to
>>>>> local wildlife needs,
>>>>> hence an ornamental desert functionally. Green
>>> lawns
>>>>> in the desert is a
>>>>> perfectly horrid extreme of this mentality. Case
>>> in
>>>>> point, the city
>>>>> state and country of LA.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And this all started out because the project is
>>>>> REPLACING the wetlands and a
>>>>>> rookery
>>>>>> SamB
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Boo
>>>>>> I dont see the 'burbs being trashed into garbage
>>>>> dumps
>>>>>> at quite the same rate as the 'low cost housing
>>>>>> developments'.
>>>> 
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