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Re: NFC: Re: Re: Re: Planaria

Yeah, Josh. Head way is happening though...And the observations, information
I've gotten in return warrants more info gathering for me.  In truth, the
point made earlier about planaria movement onto the glass of a tank (showing
themselves) and then hiding in the substrate due to predation or other
behavior is probable given their "learning" abilities.  But predation I
would think would be the reason they run too. Why run if nothing is
bothering them?  When I do my larval test with C.leedsi, and P.promelas,
I'll post what happens, it's easy enough to move 100 larvae into a tub and
dump some planaria in there with them... no substrate to hide in.  But, if
they are not eaten, I'll know at least the P.promelas and C.leedsi don't
like them :)
... I appreciate the dialog, so anyone else wants to chime in... a planaria
(flat worm) can be noticeably large, or can be as small as microscopic.  But
Walter Pennak says, they are generally less than 5 MM long (I think that was
it.)  As I said, mine are >3 mm, and I would say they are white, although I
do see a spotted one here and there.  They look like little worms with a
noticeable triangular head.



Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: "jake levi" <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
To: <nfc at actwin_com>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Re: Re: Planaria


> Hi Paul
> I dont recall seeing any in tanks with corys or
> plecos, and all my tanks had plants back and forth so
> they had to have been introduced to all the tanks, my
> sisters
> 75 gal community tank also has plants from these
> loaded tanks but there are almost a dozen corys plus a
> large pleco and they are rarely seen. More anecdotal
> stuff :-)
>
> jake
>
> --- Paul Sachs <deano at aquaculturestore_com> wrote:
> > Your info is Worth Loads.   I wonder if corys like
> > them.. I'll bet catfish
> > larvae, and fingerlings.. I would think corys would
> > be interested...since
> > they are reported worm lovers...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jake levi" <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
> > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Re: Re: Planaria
> >
> >
> > > FWIW, my larger killys(adults) like the Fp
> > gardneri
> > > Jos Plateau, Mesaje, and Mamfense dont pay much
> > > attention to them, but the adolescents and fry do.
> > The
> > > Endlers' for sure do.
> > > jake
> > > --- Paul Sachs <deano at aquaculturestore_com> wrote:
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I read and heard tetras don't like them.  But so
> > far
> > > > on the positive side
> > > > are:
> > > >
> > > > Killies
> > > > Ciclids (angel fish)
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > PS - Wally, when your water comes out of the
> > well, I
> > > > bet it's got no
> > > > Oxygen.. likely if anything was growing in it it
> > > > would anaerobic
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "jake levi" <jlevi_us at yahoo_com>
> > > > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:18 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: NFC: Re: Re: Re: Planaria
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Interesting coincidence!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a little 2 gal octagon I have used for
> > > > > fry(killies) and finally moved them to a
> > couple
> > > > ten
> > > > > gallons. I am shifting tanks around and
> > dropped my
> > > > > species number way down to use some of the
> > tanks
> > > > for
> > > > > culture tanks for salt water. Anyhow,
> > yesterday I
> > > > had
> > > > > got a couple pair of Endlers Livebearers from
> > a
> > > > > wholesaler friend and put them in the 2gal,
> > this
> > > > > morning the planaria are visibly depleted. Add
> > > > anothe
> > > > > species that eats them!
> > > > > jake
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Wally Billingham
> > > > > <wallybillingham at wallybillingham_com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hello again Paul,
> > > > > > Well I keep a little of everything from big
> > > > cichlids
> > > > > > to least killie fish
> > > > > > and everything in between. I have never seen
> > the
> > > > > > planaria in a tank with
> > > > > > fish no matter what they are but everytime I
> > > > empty
> > > > > > one for more than 2 weeks
> > > > > > there they are. I think they come in in my
> > well
> > > > > > water (what a pleasant
> > > > > > thought) good thing the drinking water is
> > R/O
> > > > LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wally
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Paul Sachs
> > <deano at aquaculturestore_com>
> > > > > > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:11 PM
> > > > > > Subject: NFC: Re: Re: Planaria
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Wally,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've got some fathead larvae and some
> > > > Cyprinella
> > > > > > leedsi larvae... I'll put
> > > > > > > some planaria in a cup with some larvae
> > and
> > > > see :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > These are 2 - 3 CM, and definitely easy to
> > > > keep.
> > > > > > So, I'm sure they could
> > > > > > > take over a tank easily.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Remind me what fish you keep Wally?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Wally Billingham"
> > > > > > <wallybillingham at wallybillingham_com>
> > > > > > > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:02
> > PM
> > > > > > > Subject: NFC: Re: Planaria
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Paul,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > While I have never seen my fish eat them
> > I
> > > > know
> > > > > > that they must. In my
> > > > > > fish
> > > > > > > > room from time to time I move fish out
> > of
> > > > one
> > > > > > tank and it goes fishless
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > a while. Everytime I do this I begin to
> > see
> > > > > > planaria in the tank on the
> > > > > > > > glass after a few weeks. But I never see
> > > > them in
> > > > > > tanks which have fish?
> > > > > > My
> > > > > > > > theory is that they are always there but
> > the
> > > > > > populations are kept in
> > > > > > check
> > > > > > > > by the fish. When the fish are gone they
> > > > come
> > > > > > out and are not eaten.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wally
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: Paul Sachs
> > > > <deano at aquaculturestore_com>
> > > > > > > > To: <nfc at actwin_com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:54
> > AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: NFC: Planaria
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm doing a bit of net research on
> > > > Planaria.
> > > > > > I've got this nice
> > > > > > culture
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > them, and I see they are used in many
> > > > study
> > > > > > areas including training,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > regeneration, and I've heard from
> > Klaus,
> > > > and
> > > > > > from another friend,
> > > > > > Jorge,
> > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > > said they make lousy fish food.
> > Although
> > > > > > Jorge did say that angel
> > > > > > fish,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > other ciclid babies will eat them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any comments?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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