RE: [Killietalk] Re: Killietalk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 7

["Al Anderson" <killiman at iquest_net>]

Atta boy Scotty you are catching on, now if the BOT could read that and
understand what you wrote I think some of the problem could be solved.


killiman at iquest_net
Al Anderson
6246 N Rural
Indianapolis IN 46220
317 253 2170

 Freedom=one person ,one ballot,counted by hand at the precent level

-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org]On
Behalf Of Erny May
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Re: Killietalk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 7

Scott, aptly stated and to the point .

Erny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Davis" <unclescott at prodigy_net>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Re: Killietalk Digest, Vol 23, Issue 7


>> If you want more fish in the show, direct more of
>> the auction price of the
>> fish to those who entered them.
>
> Larry,
>
> You will recall that the auction prices were plunging
> towards the end last Sunday. While it was not as
> dramatic as what often happens at regional shows (or
> affiliate meetings), there is a point beyond which the
> glut of killies available at a show is not productive.
> Indeed, I wonder how many of those fish, attendees are
> induced to bid on, so we can go home at the end, even
> survive, since when we (and I do mean we) are trying
> to be helpful, we are scanning our memories for
> acquaintances which might like a pair of killies, or
> wondering where the heck we are going to put them and
> when we will have the time to care for them.
>
> There were more new and rare species selections than I
> realized this year, until helping a little with their
> bagging before the auction. One observer, just in
> speculative conversation several years ago, wondered
> if the national's auction couldn't survive just on
> N&RS items. I would be sorry to see that, because
> there were still wonderful, healthy and robust adult
> killies in the show, many of them new to their
> purchasers, (not all of those adjectives apply all of
> the time to N&RS fish and never have) which many of us
> would love to take home.
>
> A lot of killie people - students, newly weds, former
> students trying to get started while paying off
> college loans, those of us down-sized in the economy,
> city dwellers trying to pay the rent, suburbanites
> trying to pay the mortgage, parents trying to do all
> they can for their children, many of us doing more
> work than we did a few years ago for the same real
> income, and retirees on modest incomes, especially
> those faced with staggering prescription and medical
> costs - have to very carefully husband their funds at
> auction. As relative inexpensive as the killie hobby
> is - vis-a-vis a lot of the other aquatic specialties
> - sadly those factors and other "life stuff" things
> that happen to us, keep some people out of the hobby.
>
> One can tell the frugal aquarists. They will keep
> score of what they sold at auction (or the fish sale
> room) and buy accordingly. They may be the wisest of
> hobbyists. They produce more killies for auction than
> they might otherwise and are careful to only purchase
> a certain quantity of new fish. Those new acquisitions
> will get pretty good care.
>
> That must apply to most killinuts. Most of them deal
> with limitations and self control graciously. However
> there was one guy, years ago, known as "So and So The
> Whiner".
>
> The fish sale room was first proposed and started at
> the 1985 nation, over shocked and worried concerns
> that the AKA would never be the same. The club that
> started that was, and is, mostly made up of killinuts
> who fall in one or several of those frugal categories
> mentioned above. The fish sale room was designed to be
> a modest financial help to killie people while making
> some rare fish available to ordinary aquarists would
> couldn't afford the increasingly high auction prices
> of some of the then hot new killies. It also freed
> hotel room sellers from having to stay in their room
> and helped the host club defray some of the expenses
> of hosting the show. It was a compromise between the
> altruistic approach to an all donation national and an
> event where ordinary people could get more involved in
> the hobby.
>
> Could the AKA survive a more commercial approach to
> the hobby? Sure. Numbers might even grow as some
> people joined the hobby to make money beyond the few
> bucks brought in by killie club auction, F&E listing
> or a couple of Internet auctions. But I would bet that
> entries in the national (buffeted this year by the
> fear of and realities over carrying killies on the
> airlines or mailng them to the show) would not
> significantly rise.
>
> And the spirit of the hobby might profoundly change.
>
> All the best!
> Scott
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