RE: White worm culture

["Tranquility Base" <TranquilityBase at NetZero_Net>]

Fly/midge larvae can not be separated from the worms by flooding the
culture. They drown at exactly the same rate. And to make matters worse
their eggs can survive after the worms do not.
Get rid of them now while you still have a chance. Use the heat and water
method I described in another post. Then start your culture from clean
worms. Fly or midge larvae often have tiny black heads. Make sure none of
them make the transfer with the worms.

Then keep your cultures in containers which prevent the bugs from getting in
while still allowing air in.

Peace,

~RJ~



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
Behalf Of Tish KB
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:54 PM
To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: RE: White worm culture


OK So i definately have flies, and now i have some
inside my dorm room. grrrrrrrrrr. i'll try the moth
balls ASAP.



--- "Stoecker,Michael,FRANKLIN PARK,NC&C"
<michael.stoecker at us_nestle.com> wrote:
> Barry,
> I have also tried mothballs.  Several in a sweater
> box sized container of
> white worms.  No impact at all on the mites.  I
> wasn't bothered by any flies
> at the time so I can't say if they are effective
> against them.
> Wait a minute here!  Let's see, I didn't have flies.
>  I used mothballs.  No
> flies ever invaded the culture.  Therefore, the
> mothballs must have been the
> only thing effective against the flies!  Makes sense
> to me.
> Thanks,
> mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Cooper [mailto:bjc3 at cornell_edu]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:29 PM
> To: killietalk at aka_org
> Subject: Re: White worm culture
>
>
> At 11:10 AM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
> >Tish KB wrote:
> >
> >regarding brown mites:
>
>
> You may want to try placing a mothball in the
> culture. Just stick in one
> corner of the container. I have friends in the UK
> who swear that this will
> control mites. I can tell you that I have used
> mothballs to try to control
> little flies that get in my grindal worm cultures.
> The mothballs do not
> harm the grindal worms, so I doubt that they would
> harm the white worms.
>
> I have seen some comments about white worms doing
> well at high
> temperatures, like in the 70s and 80s. To my
> knowledge that goes against
> all conventional wisdom. White worms do best in the
> mid-50s to low 60s, and
> cultures will at best hang on in the 70s. That has
> been consistent with my
> experience.
>
> Grindal worms, in contrast, do well in the mid- to
> high 70s. I wonder if
> there has been some confusion in the identity of the
> worms being discussed.
> White worms are considerably bigger than grindal
> worms. On the other hand,
> I find grindal worms easier to culture under my
> conditions and I can
> produce enough to feed my whole fishroom regularly.
> They are also a great
> size for fish larger than about 15 mm, and they're
> useful for even full
> grown nothos.
>
> I don't do white worms any more as I have ready
> access to black worms.
>
> Barry
>
>
> Barry J. Cooper, Prof. Emeritus, Dept. Biomedical
> Sciences, Cornell
> University
> Adjunct faculty, College of Veterinary Medicine,
> Oregon State University
> Home address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd., Sweet Home, OR
> 97386 (bjc3 at cornell_edu)
>
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