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Killies in Oz



Hi All,

> The killy situation down under (NZ and OZ) apparently has come under the
> cloud of non-native introductions that have been so devastating to certain
> ecological niches.

Our biggest problem has been the breeding of annuals and the way European
carp stir the bottom up to feed is seen as the same thing. Carp have just
about removed all native fish from the River Murry and have turned the river
into a muddy mess by constantly stiring the silt looking for food. Some
bright spark would of seen a picture of some annuals spawning in some peat
found out they were called egg laying tooth carp and the rest is history.

The killie hobby has its one chance of making these fish legal at the
moment. There was a new law indroduced at the start of the year that
increases the penalties for owning any fish that are illegal it also covers
birds,reptiles and frogs the law is so big and covers so many species there
is no way they can enforce it. The government department handling the law
has asked for a list of illegal species all ready in the country so they can
make a final judgement anything that does not make the allowable list never
will. They are looking at making the list of species smaller so it will not
require a lot of policing to enforce. I can't tell you what NAKA or the SKG
are doing about it but if any one has any information that may help thier
argument you should contact the respective presidents for each club. When I
was at the ANGFA conferance talked to one thier reps for the meetings about
the new law(did not know it at the time) and told him I was worried that
killies would not even get a mention and all killies would probably be
banned completely. Hopefully he will remember the conversation and put in a
good word(Hi Bruce).
>
> It takes a lot of money to meet the import requirements, but the hobby is
> too small and limited to afford the costs. Like killies, everywhere, it
just
> isn't commercial.

For one box of fish on this end $700-$800 AUS and thats if the box is all
one species add another $350-$450 for each additional species. Thats $50 a
day for the extra quarantine tank plus what ever AQIS charge for the extra
paperwork. The charges on your end would probably would not be so steep but
$1 AUS is only worth 50 cents American


 Bureaucratic pseudo-scientists can easily import and
> distribute nasty predators like damnbusia, at taxpayer expense,

At the moment all the new housing estates are built with a big park and lake
in the middle. Guess what they are filling the lakes with. It is not very
sucsessful for some reason they keep having massive unexplainable dieoffs.

or become
> smugglers.

Was caught twice last year I am now a reformed smuggler


> Could we, at this end, make some arrangement to maintain killies in a
> condition that the bureaucracy would accept, and then send them on to OZ.

There is a long list of requirements for a quarantine area.

>Can they send us fish, easily?

As long as you can prove thier aquarium breed and not poached I don't think
there is a problem.
>
> The situation of limited species, and exclusivity would vanish, if we
could
> share our wonderful variety of killifish species in some rational fashion.

It all depends on who you know and what side of the Blue Mountains you are
on to what species you get. Of the 10 species of killies I have now only 2
are from eggs or fish that other killie keepers in Australia have given or
sent me. The other 8 I rescued  from wholesalers but this is expensive you
have to buy 10-12 fish to get a couple of pairs or a trio. Have been trying
for close to 2years some Fundulopanchax gardneri and I mention it to who
ever I talk to.  Have had more eggs, help and gifts from overseas than
locally

> I, personally, like Blue-Eyes, Gudgeons, and a lot of the ANGFA species.
How
> can we arrange to swap boxes like we now do with DKG, KFN, etc.?

Box swapping is probably a bit hard. If you are after any Rainbows or
Blue-Eyes let me know, my native fish contacts are pretty good. Remember to
let me now what creek or river. I am cutting back on my killies to
concentrate more on natives so a couple of project fish would make it more
enjoyable. I also have native aquatic plants if your interested.

 The first
> step is to cure our ignorance and let us know what we have to do to send
you
> *Glugea*-free Nothos, etc.

I can't recieve anymore but know people who will. The most sucsessful way is
inside a video.

> I'd be happy to be educated, on or off list, if we could break down the
> barriers enough that folks in OZ could have as nice fishrooms as we have
> here.

This post would have done bit. Lack of information is another big problem
maybe instead of a box of fish a box of old dog eared coffee stained,
JAKA's, kllie books, local club journals. These could be sold and the money
put towards importing a box of fish. The most common form of killie info
down here are the Baensch Atlases.

>
> Let's do something positive for killies down under. I look forward to the
> establishment of a Southern branch of the Lampeye Study Group. (^_^)

I have kept Poropanchax normani twice a wild import that were lost when I
moved house after keeping them 2 years and bought some local ones from a
wholesaler but they never breed, at guess I would say they had some sort of
internal parasite. Heard of Lamprichthys tanganicanus being imported but not
established

Thanks Wright.

Gary H-H
>



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