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Algone's response (continued)
Okay, I know this string is wearing thin! Having asked if they were a scam,
however, I feel it's my duty to report what Algone has told me...
Q (from me to Algone via email): "If Algone is made of plant fibers, then
how does it work without light? I thought plants required light to perform
photosythesis...to process nitrates."
A (from Algone Rep.): "Algone does not work on the basis of photosynthesis.
I was agreeing to your picture of a plant within the pouch as it very simply
describes the way Algone works in general and easy to understand terms. The
microorganisms within the plant fiber mixture are responsible for the
reduction of nitrogen compounds. The microorganisms are getting activated in
the water and feed of said compounds, converting them into mircobacterial
protein, which is retained in the pouch. The filter is the preferred place,
as all of the water can pass the pouch and the compounds can be "filtered"
out."
...So there it is. Even if they were more specific about the
"micrcoorganism," the science would be above my head anyway. Maybe someone
out there in Killi-land with a biology background knows if their answer
makes sense in scientific terms...
>From: "Tranquility Base" <TranquilityBase at NetZero_Net>
>Reply-To: killietalk at aka_org
>To: <killietalk at aka_org>
>Subject: RE: A. bivitattum
>Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:43:38 -0500
>
>Hi Shane,
>
>How goes it? You made some good points regarding the BIT. I actually
>checked on my BIT for the first time in several weeks. And yes they are
>still there. I was afraid I had been wasting food on an empty tank.
>
>Have you ever wondered how they get those lovely pictures of these fish?
>
>Also regarding feeding flake, my BIT prefer it with mayo on white toast I'm
>not sure how they would like it with relish. I'll have to try it.
>
>Peace,
>
>~RJ~
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
>Behalf Of Shane Essary
>Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:16 AM
>To: killietalk at aka_org
>Subject: RE: A. bivitattum
>
>
>I'll add the following:
>
>A. volcanum (a BIV type) was one of my first killies (came from Ed Warner).
>Several valuable things came from keeping this fish:
>
>1) I agree with the reclusive part. I never saw this fish unless I herded
>them out of the plants. Ever. Occassionally I would spot the male in the
>plants, looking really good, but most of the time they were in "color down"
>mode.
>
>2) This was the first killie I ever got fry from. This was after I
>learned:
>
>3) Killies jump. Count on it. I had a 1" strip at the back of the tank
>that was uncovered and within a month, both were found laying under the
>stand on the carpet, dried up.
>
>4) Killie fry don't need to be fed to survive if in a heavily planted tank.
>I found fry at 1/4" in that tank a month after the parents jumped. I never
>fed the tank after I found the bodies. (I've found similar results with
>BIT
>fry)
>
>Since then, the only BIV I've kept (currently) is A. loenbergi (I believe
>this is a BIV complex fish?). I never see them. They hide in the mops.
>They're not even breeding at the moment and all eggs I've pulled in the
>past have been fragile, infertile, or fungused. I've tried everything but
>seperating them out and short term breeding them, which is my next
>strategy.
>When I catch them in the flashlight, the males are a rather pleasant sky
>blue color. Other than that, they're dull. I think they'd look nice over
>a
>dark substrate with blacked-out walls (diapteron tank).
>
>Now, on the other hand, I have a similar fish in BIT. They're also shy and
>reclusive, but my, what a nice fish. Great finnage, my 10 gallon planted
>grow-out tank has probably 5 pair in it and the males are usually always
>out
>and about, showing off in front of each other. I never see the breeders in
>the 2.5, though.
>
>Other things: BIT will learn to take flake, with relish. At least in my
>experience, they will. BIT Benin City (when I had these) took flake with
>ease and so will these BIT CI00's I have (the F0's would also take flake,
>so...) I'm feeding them Omega? flakes, but I only do that as a stop gap
>measure when I'm short on baby brine. I've heard that BIV are similar in
>their food tastes.
>
>Just my .02. Adjust for inflation accordingly.
>
>-Shane
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Tranquility Base" <TranquilityBase at NetZero_Net>
>Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:54:34 -0500
>To: <killietalk at aka_org>
>Subject: RE: A. bivitattum
>
>
> > Hi Jacqueline,
> >
> > I do not necessarily agree with Catherine's comments regarding the
> > difficulty involved in caring for BIV's. A 5 gal tank or larger with
>lots
>of
> > java moss water sprite and riccia is all you need to get started. You
>will
> > also need live foods to condition the fish. Do your water changes and
>fry
> > will appear in a few months.
> >
> > I also tend to believe that if you really like a particular fish you are
> > more likely to care for it properly when you get it. The fish Catherine
> > recommends do have much more outgoing personalities. They also maintain
> > their brilliant colors all of the time. They are good choices to start
>with.
> > But that does not mean that they are right for you. I fell in love with
> > Nothos and started there, despite advise similar to what Catherine is
>giving
> > you. It was not an auspicious start, but as I really wanted the fish so
>I
> > learned what I needed to know and kept at it.
> >
> > On the other hand, Catherine makes a good point, that as spectacular as
> > these fish can be in photos, they are often reclusive. Most Chroma's
>also
> > have the ability to color up and down. When they are not in happy mode
>they
> > are not nearly as nice as they appear in the photos. I have a tank of
>BIT
> > which I rarely see. And when I do see them they are rarely in good
>color.
> > When they are in good color and they come out I am reminded that they
>are
> > worth the work and aggravation.
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > ~RJ~
> >
>
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