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Re: KillieTalk Digest V3 #1536

This may not be necessary with the new fix in place. and many thanks 
to Mark Rosenstein at actwin.com (mar at actwin_com). We appreciate you 
work! and help.

Charles Harrison

>KThis may not be necessary
>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 23:50:52 -0300
>From: kkl at rosnet_ru
>Subject: Re[2]: List problems (was Re: Fw: pic of piedmont shiner in 
>[a   bit off)
>
>To solve these problems simply - forget stinky MS Outlook and use The
>Bat! - most powerful mail program...
>
>Just my recommendation... I'm not soft distributor or sales manager...
>
>JB> In Microsoft Outlook, to set the options to text:
>
>JB> Click on Tools and then Options
>JB> Then click on Mail Format
>JB> Under Message Format click on the little triangle in the box beside the
>JB> text, Send In This Message Format: and choose Text
>JB> Then drop Down to Settings, click on Settings and Choose the 
>Uuencode circle
>
>JB> Those are the steps I followed.
>
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>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 13:27:00 -0700
>From: "Grant" <Grant at cromas_net>
>Subject: Ok Washingtonian killie keepers
>
>Ok Washingtonian killie keepers I know your out there so e-mail me off the
>list if you are one!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Grant Parker Baker
>Visit my site,
>http://www.cromas.net/fish
>Grant at cromas_net
>"When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."
>- -Thomas Jefferson
>
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>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 20:39:36 -0500
>From: "Ruth Warner" <ruthwarner at earthlink_net>
>Subject: Re: Tank Lids An answer and a couple of questions for oldtimers.
>
>I have all my fish in the basement,so my tops dont have to be pretty,just
>practical,I go to Menards or where ever,get some screen-molding,and
>nylon-sreeningmaterial.I make a frame staple it together,cut out the
>screen,staple it on the frame,than you'll have a reasonably priced cover.No
>water dripping down the sides easy to get at and feed,no problem for
>me.Ruth
>
>
>- ----- Original Message -----
>
>From: George
>Melanie
>
>To: killietalk at aka_org
>
>Sent: 9/1/01 2:48:55 PM
>
>Subject: Re: Tank Lids An answer and a
>couple of questions for oldtimers.
>
>
>
>
>
>   Adding a different idea to the mix, I made tops for all of my 2
>1/2 gal tanks  from the white plastic macrame grids that you get at
>the craft store for about 25 cents each. I cut the grid so it is 
>slightly larger
>than the tank top. Then I purchase that white vinyl strip made for using along
>the edge of glass or plexiglass. It has a small channel in it and comes in 8
>foot lengths. I cut this in lengths to suit the sides of the plastic 
>grids. Then
>hot glue them
>
>around the edges of the plastic grid. It is easy to cut a hole out in the
>grid to suit the location of your air line if necessary. It gives you a nice
>light but rigid cover that is easily lifted to feed, etc.
>
>George
>
>
>
>Barry Cooper wrote:
>
>
>
>   When I was using clear plastic sheets for tank lids I used to glue a
>narrow strip (about 1/2") across the lid near one edge, cut a little shorter
>that the span of the tank, so it did not prevent the lid from 
>seating properly.
>I used the special solvent/glue sold by the plastics folks for that 
>purpose. You
>need to be careful to use it outdoors or in a very well ventilated 
>area. Anyway,
>that reduced the tendency to bow. However, in the end, I went back to
>glass.
>
>
>
>   Barry
>
>
>
>   At 11:41 AM 9/1/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>    Regarding ceiling tile lids.
>
>   
>
>    This may be way out in "left field," but I have to ask
>anyway.  Would it be possible to spray the underside of the lids with
>a polyurathane to seal it off from moisture?  That would prevent the
>material from absorbing the moisture that causes warping.
>
>   
>
>    Also, could one attach a non-plastic brace across the top, such as
>a short piece of aluminum "L" stock   That would hold the weight of
>the plastic and prvent it from bowing.
>
>   
>
>    Just a few ideas.
>
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>   ___________________________________________________
>
>   Barry J. Cooper, Prof., Dept. Biomedical Sciences, Cornell
>University
>
>   Current address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd.
>
>   Sweet Home, OR 97386 (bjc3 at cornell_edu )
>
>
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>
>Ruth Warner
>
>ruthwarner at earthlink_net
>
>http://www.geocities.com/killiesbyruth/index.html
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>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 21:03:02 -0500
>From: Charles n Sue Harrison <csharrison at accessus_net>
>Subject: Tank Lids- An answer from oldtimers.
>
>Ruth's method also helps to keep the temperature down in the covered
>tank which might be very important and it also doesn't filter out a
>lot of light that plastic and glass does. A good idea with side
>profits for those of us who might want to keep our plants more
>healthy.
>
>Also Ruth, could you not copy quite so much of the previous message
>when you answer back?
>
>Thanks,
>Charles Harrison
>
>>I have all my fish in the basement,so my tops dont have to be pretty,just
>>practical,I go to Menards or where ever,get some screen-molding,and
>>nylon-sreeningmaterial.I make a frame staple it together,cut out the
>>screen,staple it on the frame,than you'll have a reasonably priced cover.No
>>water dripping down the sides easy to get at and feed,no problem for
>me.Ruth
>
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>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 21:07:35 -0500
>From: Charles n Sue Harrison <csharrison at accessus_net>
>Subject: If the mountain can't move, perhaps
>
>If the mountain can't move, perhaps there is a better way for the
>masses to get around it. If one can make a change for the better
>there could be a way out without the list server looking for more
>software.
>
>The biggest problem for an e-mail list server program is handling
>many different platforms and many different senders and client side
>software. One solution may be a general use of one e-mail client for
>the majority of the members of the list in question. One solution
>could be the general use of a very powerful and versatile e-mail
>client from Qualcom, Eudora. It can be downloaded from
>http://www.eudora.com
>	It is available for both Mac and Windows platforms. It comes
>free with adds and for a small charge there is an advertisements free
>version. It does not have the bugs and security holes widely
>exploited by most hackers and virus builders that MS Outlook has. It
>has been around since 1996 and improved since it was developed. It
>has a very versatile Mailbox handling section, various e-mail ID
>settings and a very deep Online Help section. Setings are easy to put
>into place and complete control is straight forward. Oh - the
>SPELLING Help is fantastic! It will work on most all dial up ISP's.
>Sorry it doesn't interface with AOL. AOL mail sending is a stand
>alone application. With Eudora one can receive AOL e-mail or any
>other e-mail - you will just have to have a Yahoo or HotMail or what
>ever account to send messages out.
>	If those subscribers who are sincere and want an easy out,
>and want to help clean up this Majordomo mess, this is it. Very
>clean, short learning curve.
>	I personally don't know " BAT" but might be interested if you
>had a free source for the application.
>
>Back to the Labor Day water changes
>Charles Harrison
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>Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 12:32:36 +1000
>From: brdbap at optusnet_com.au
>Subject: Killies and apistogramma
>
>Hi
>
>Would appreciate learning about people's experiences with keeping 
>these two fishes together.
>
>In my limited experience with them together, killies enjoy apisto 
>fry and the fins of apisto parents are often too great a
>temptation.
>
>What have others found
>
>
>Bill Phillips
>Australia
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>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 23:15:45 -0400
>From: "Jose Perez" <joselperez at worldnet_att.net>
>Subject: Re: If the mountain can't move, perhaps
>
>I don't understand what the problem with outlook express is? according to
>some on this list. The settings are there, just do them and that is it,
>there is no need to download eudora? I am not going to do it. In outlook
>express you can make the setting so that you can reply with the original
>message or not ? what difference does it make, personally I like to see the
>original message that was replied to, in case I missed it or don't remember
>exactly what was said. I can understand being frustrated about seeing mime
>or html formatting, but this can also easily be rid of.
>
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>Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 05:14:37 +0200 (MET DST)
>From: "L.A.M.Uytenhaak" <l.a.m.uijtenhaak at hccnet_nl>
>Subject: builds.Reliable Software (http://www.
>
>To their frequency spectrum analyzer.  Parts of their FFT class are 
>in the capture vumeter routines (although it's an FHT now).Serguei 
>Grigoriev, for providing beta software and diagnostic tips to help 
>me track down capture-related bugs in VirtualDub.Donald Graft, for 
>lots of tips on improving the video filtering system, and working on 
>a smart deinterlace filter.
>
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>Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 05:29:00 +0200 (MET DST)
>From: "L.A.M.Uytenhaak" <l.a.m.uijtenhaak at hccnet_nl>
>Subject: The precedence of binary
>
>Position in the table. The unary operators are:	Operator 
>	Type of Operation				- 
>	Unary minus		!		One's complement 
>			The binary operators are listed in the 
>following table in their order of precedence. Operators with higher 
>precedence are listed first:	Operators	Type of Operation 
>	Type Restrictions                                     
>				*  /		Multiplicative 
>	Integers					+  - 
>	Additive	integers	Strings (+ only) 
>			< > <= >=	Relational 
>	Integers		== !=		Equality 
>		Integers, strings, booleans	and 
>	Logical AND		Booleans 
>		or		Logical OR		Booleans 
>				Examples:count = 3 + 5 * 40transmit 
>"Hello" + " there"delay 24 / (7 - 1)6.
>
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>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 23:39:25 -0400
>From: "Jose Perez" <joselperez at worldnet_att.net>
>Subject: Re: The precedence of binary
>
>are you sure ?
>
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>Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 00:41:39 -0400
>From: "Allen N Sandra" <a.boatman at verizon_net>
>Subject: RE: killies and apisto
>
>Bill P. ,
>	I have had some experience with these both.  These same as 
>you had listed.
>With no babies it is fine.  When apisto fry come around, I would reduce the
>number of killies to a minimum and exclude species like J. floridae,
>Fundulopanchax sp., Aplocheilus, large Epiplatys, and such.  I found A.
>ogoense ottogartneri 'Lutete' to be ok, and hera as well.  The Aphyos seem a
>little less aggressive and predacious.
>
>Boat
>
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>Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:14:02 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jim Eller <jeller3 at yahoo_com>
>Subject: No water on the floor/ tank cover.
>
>Re:No water on the floor/ tank cover.
>Hi everyone,
>
>Back 40+ years ago when I was just a little kid, my
>uncle was an avid fish breeder. ALL of his tanks were
>of the metal framed slate bottom type. He had 100+ of
>them. Of course he became an expert with repairing
>them. He also made all of his own glass covers. I also
>became an expert with saying all the bad words he said
>when he broke a cover or dropped a tank ;). Anyway
>here is what he did. He cut the cover to the outer
>dimensions of the tanks top edge. He then sanded the
>edge to smooth it. On the underside of the glass cover
>to make a "drip edge" he glued a continuous piece of
>airline tubing to the inside dimension of the tank.
>The tubing did not allow the water to go anywhere but
>back into the tank. The tubing kept the cover in place
>and did not allow it to slide off to the side or back.
>It kept the cover directly centered over the tank
>opening. He would make a small cut in the tubing about
>1/2 of an inch and removed that small section which
>allowed the air supply line a place to enter for his
>inside the tank box filter. He also glued a marble to
>the top of each one to use as a handle to open it.
>
>Regards,
>
>=====
>Jim Eller
>*New Email Address jeller3 at yahoo_com
>MI-USA
>
>__________________________________________________
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>Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 01:05:31 -0500
>From: "Ernest E. May" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
>Subject: Re: Tank Lids An answer and a couple of questions for oldtimers.
>
>Thank you
>erny
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: "George & Melanie" <caraway at erienet_net>
>To: <killietalk at aka_org>
>Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 6:23 AM
>Subject: Re: Tank Lids An answer and a couple of questions for oldtimers.
>
>
>>  I get the white vinyl strip At Lowes or Home Depot.
>>
>>  "Ernest E. May" wrote:
>>
>>  > George,
>>  > Great idea! Where did you get the white vinyl strip?
>>  > erny
>>  > ----- Original Message -----
>>  > From: "George & Melanie" <caraway at erienet_net>
>>  > To: <killietalk at aka_org>
>>  > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 2:48 PM
>>  > Subject: Re: Tank Lids An answer and a couple of questions for
>oldtimers.
>>  >
>>  > > Adding a different idea to the mix, I made tops for all of my 2 1/2
>gal
>>  > tanks  from the white plastic macrame grids that you get at the craft
>store
>>  > for about 25 cents each. I cut the grid so it is slightly larger than
>the
>>  > tank top. Then I purchase that white vinyl strip made for using along
>the
>>  > edge of glass or plexiglass. It has a small channel in it and comes in 8
>>  > foot lengths. I cut this in lengths to suit the sides of the plastic
>grids.
>>  > Then hot glue them
>>  > > around the edges of the plastic grid. It is easy to cut a hole out in
>the
>>  > grid to suit the location of your air line if necessary. It gives you a
>nice
>>  > light but rigid cover that is easily lifted to feed, etc.
>>  > > George
>>  > >
>>  > > Barry Cooper wrote:
>>  > >
>>  > > > When I was using clear plastic sheets for tank lids I used to glue a
>>  > narrow strip (about 1/2") across the lid near one edge, cut a little
>shorter
>>  > that the span of the tank, so it did not prevent the lid from seating
>>  > properly. I used the special solvent/glue sold by the plastics folks for
>>  > that purpose. You need to be careful to use it outdoors or in a very
>well
>>  > ventilated area. Anyway, that reduced the tendency to bow. However, in
>the
>>  > end, I went back to glass.
>>  > > >
>>  > > > Barry
>>  > > >
>  > > > > At 11:41 AM 9/1/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>  > > > >Regarding ceiling tile lids.
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > >This may be way out in "left field," but I have to ask anyway.
>Would
>>  > it be possible to spray the underside of the lids with a polyurathane to
>>  > seal it off from moisture?  That would prevent the material from
>absorbing
>>  > the moisture that causes warping.
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > >Also, could one attach a non-plastic brace across the top, such as
>a
>>  > short piece of aluminum "L" stock>  That would hold the weight of the
>>  > plastic and prvent it from bowing.
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > >Just a few ideas.
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>>  > > >
>>  > > > ___________________________________________________
>>  > > > Barry J. Cooper, Prof., Dept. Biomedical Sciences, Cornell
>University
>>  > > > Current address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd.
>  > > > > Sweet Home, OR 97386 (bjc3 at cornell_edu)
>  > > > >
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>Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 03:33:15 EDT
>From: Sandy1238 at aol_com
>Subject: Re: epiplatys dageti red form
>
>Hi,
>There is a red form or at least one with red fins but it is Ep. chaperi
>Angona.
>Regards,
>Sandy
>
>
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