Ed wrote: >>It is my theory that either a) they are eating bad leaf's b) that someone's sae's are spitfull and perhaps starved and/or c) that sae's have esp but there wires are crossed :) << Let's look at the facts: Steve bleachs his plants, right? Steves SAEs eat his plants, right? Therefore, SAEs only eat bleached plants! I love logic, don't you? :-) Darren