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Subject: Re: Angel Fish Breeding

> What you describe is *absolutely* normal. Tank bred (i.e most) A
> are usually pretty poor parents, at least when young. Sometimes 
> better after a few attempts; but many aquarists pull the eggs aw
> raise the young themselves. But since parental behaviour is one 
> delights of cichlid care, I would persevere.

I was trying to stay out of this because it's really not plant 
related, but I have to jump in on this comment.  _RESPONSIBLY 
BRED_ tank raised Angels should be very good parents.  All of the 
responsible Angel breeders I know allow the parents to raise their 
own fry, and will not breed a pair that will not tend their spawn. 
 This keeps the parental instincts strong, even if you get a few 
less spawns out of each pair during the year.

Inexperienced young fish often eat their first few spawns, even 
under good conditions.  _Very_ few pairs are willing and able to 
properly tend their fry to independence under community tank 
conditions.  As you mentioned, it only makes sense that they 
should get the nutrition back rather than letting the eggs or 
young fry get picked off by other fish.  This behavior allows them 
to spawn again sooner, hopefully under better conditions.

IMO, if you want a display tank, you enjoy what (if any) fry 
survive from serendipitous spawns.  If you want to breed fish, you 
set them up in conditions that are suitable for them to succeed.  
I would _not_ pull eggs.  It only adds to the pool of angels out 
there who _won't_ tend their own spawns.  

If anyone needs a source of angelfish stock that have very strong 
parental instincts, and that have been raised _by their parents_ 
for generations, let me know, and I'll put you in touch with the 
right people.  Good angels are no more expensive than bad ones.

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 Subject: "Wall Mats"

> > I have been drooling over Amano's new books but, I have no ide
> > are. He is using these in place of a substrate in his small pl
> > someone clue me in?
> 
> Isn't that the name of a discount store chain in Boston?

GROAN!!!!<g> (took me a minute ;-)


BTW, they're fairly late-commers to the Boston area, but they're 
taking over the world!<g>


Karen Randall
Aquatic Gardeners Assoc.
Boston, MA