Charlie, this is the only way to reach you because email to cbay@@.jeppesen.com bounced back ("unrecoverable error"). I don't need the sand anymore because I've set up the tank already. Thank you. I am interested in your water cabbage and any costs. How can I send you my address? Greg. Tong San Francisco, CA, USA gtong at sirius_com "Every infinity is composed of only two halves."