Sorry folks, I really meant SAEs as in Siamese Algae Eaters, or Crossocheilus siamensis. Just goes to show that one (namely me) should proof what one has typed BEFORE hitting the send button. No, wait, I know what happened. In the form of English spoken here they are called Siamese Eaters of Algae (SEA). Ya, that's it. . . 8-) Susan schroedr at tyrell_net