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Re: Algae eaters and pH
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Based on a message from Liisa Sarakontu to All,
Let's talk about: Re: Algae eaters and pH
>> All Loricariidae like their pH at about 6.8. Similar with
>> the SAE-s and realted fish, I believe.
LS> Ideal pH for SAEs and their relatives is about 7.0, but at least real
LS> SAE can tolerate a very wide pH range, from 6.0 to 8.0 without any
LS> problems. Its relatives might be little more delicate, but slightly
LS> over 7.0 is ok with all of them.
Ok, I didn't realy know this, but I could expect this from
the fact that they live in colder streams in rocky waters...
LS>>> so I can't compare them from my own experiences. I have three
LS>>> "spotted bristlenoses", Ancistrus sp. cf. temminckii and I'm very
LS>>> happy
>> Does it have black body with small white dots like stars?
LS> No. Dark brown with yellowish brown spots, about 3 times bigger spots
LS> than the "hoplogenys" type you are describing here. These Finnish
Ah. We call them A. dolichopterus here... This is the most
popular algae-eater in Poland, although I was never sure of
its latin name, it might be A. temminicki or A.
dolichopterus, and I cannot find a difference anywhere :9
Does yours have, when it's young, white spots at the edges
of its first and last ray of the tail?
LS> Ancistrus cats look much like A. temminckii or A. dolichopterus. The
LS> black with white tiny spots is called "pearl bristlenose" here.
We call those Star-algae-eaters... However I had many books
with different names assigned to those - in the biggest and
best I believe atlas that I have it's called A.
dolichopterus, but in H. Frey's catfish book dolichopterus
is the one that you and I have... :(
LS> There are at least 50 Ancistrus species, so there probably are slightly
LS> different behaviour patterns in this group: some eat plants, some
LS> don't. Some are more effecient with algae, and some are more
LS> aggressive. The genus is right now under a revision, so perhaps we'll
LS> learn more about different bristlenose species after Swiss Sonia Muller
LS> has been able to complete her work.
Oh! At last! I was hoping someone would at last start doing
something about this mess in the Ancistrus group... :)
>> Agreed. Very effective, however, they cannot be kept with
>> delicate, large-bodied fish.
LS> Why? Have your fish attacked their tankmates? Mine has never done so,
Yes it has, it has even killed a catfish. It might depend on
the species, perhaps we have a different species afer all.
The pearl ones I heard are quite timid, but the regular
bristlenose is a small devil...
LS> although there is one big pearl gourami in the same tank. (Well, he
LS> isn't actually a delicate fish, but a big, mean fighter.)
As all gourami males are, usually :)
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