Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 107, Issue 5

[dbabyg at yahoo_com]

I omitted listing my location.  I am located on the gulf coast of in Biloxi, Mississippi.  I posed the question "Growing Aquarium Plants in Hard Water' to get some different opinions.  Excess sunlight and high temperatures are always an issue for this region.  Our summers are extreme and the winters are fairly non-existent.  The warmer temperature is nice for outdoor ponds with the exceptions of controlling excess sunlight and high summer temperatures. 

My water hardness (GH) is 300 and the Alkalinity (KH) is also 300.  I have three aquariums in my house, several breeding tanks in my enclosed Patio room and an outdoor pond. I'm considering building another larger outdoor pond next year.  My patio gets a lot of early morning direct sunlight especially during the summers.  One plant I plan to purchase and grow is Valisneria.  Thanks for the input.




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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:13:49 +0000
From: Bill Wichers <billw at waveform_net>
Subject: Re: [APD] Growing Aquatic Plants
To: "aquatic-plants at actwin_com" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

To add to what Erik said, I've also found hornwort seems to like a lot of iron in the water. That's just based on my own observations.

I've found myself that I have better luck growing plants in hard water than soft. I've even done experiments where I've let large amounts of water evaporate (75% or so), which effectively hardens the water, and generally I see better plant growth. I don't control all variables on those experiments since they're just informal tests so it's not entirely definitive. 

BTW, it's nice to see some traffic on the list. I miss the old days of 20-30+ posts per day.

  -Bill

> On 2013-12-20 07:19, dbabyg at yahoo_com wrote:
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> > What plants will grow well in hard water?  Some plants that I like are
> Ludwigia, Anacharis, Cabomba, Hornwort, Vallisneria, et.
[snip]
> 
> Hornwort is also found in Lake Tanganyika.
> 
>    - Erik
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:48:28 -0500 (EST)
From: RMGTBTS at aol_com
Subject: Re: [APD] growing aquatic plants
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com

Dan

Since you didn't mention what location on the planet you are at, perhaps  
you could tell us what exactly is making your water so hard and what the Kh 
and  Gh numbers are.

Have lived (phoenix)where the tap water  was considered "liquid rock"  and 
at the other extreme in Milton, MA where the hardness was less than  ONE.  
Water filtering thru granite doesn't pick up a lot of elements!   Grew plants 
in both places. 

Look into the archives for macro and micro nutrients, fertilizing the water 
column, and then see if you can get an analysis of the tap water from the 
local  water district.

sunlight. oh boy. had a tank that suddenly had a corner that was growing a  
plant there like crazy.  got up a little earlier than usual and went down  
to my fish room in the basement and lo and behold, a sliver of sunlight was  
coming in around the edge of a curtain and was shining right on the corner 
of  that tank.  and only for 45 minutes. But that was enough to spur really 
hot  growth.

IMHO it is almost impossible to manage the growth generated by the  
application of direct sunlight to a tank.  Blows the 2WPG recommendation  out the 
window. I have always found it easier to control the tank growth and  health 
by eliminating direct sunlight from the equation. 

back to lurking

rich green
now in San Diego
forever



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 23:07:17 -0500
From: Jerry Smith <jerrytheplater at hotmail_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Growing Aquatic Plants
To: Aquatic Plants <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

Dan
You mention direct sun. This is too much for some plants. I grow several Cryptocoryne species in Tanganyika water. None are found in the lake. Very few will tolerate full sun.
Those that thrive in hard water, but not full sun, and not a full list: C. usteriana, C. hudoroi, C. beckettii, C. wendtii, C. parva, C. x willisii, C. spiralis, C. retrospiralis, C. crispatula var. crispatula, C. affinis, C. pontederifolia, C. moehlmannii. 
Jerry SmithBloomingdale, NJ
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:19:57 -0800 (PST)
> From: dbabyg at yahoo_com
> Subject: [APD] Growing Aquatic Plants
> To: "aquatic-plants at actwin_com" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> I would like to grow several aquarium plants and my water is naturally hard.? Normally, I draw water for aquarium use from my outside facets.? The hard water is great for Cichlids.? I get a lot of direct sunlight and sometimes block it out.
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> What plants will grow well in hard water?? Some plants that I like are Ludwigia, Anacharis, Cabomba, Hornwort, Vallisneria, et.
> 
> dan
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