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Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 65, Issue 14
Thanks for all your comments, folks. The rhodie experiment will begin soon.
Don't worry, no fishes will be harmed in this experiment. First, I want to
see what happens to the water when I just put the wood in it. I'll check the
pH and see what happens to that. Then, snails and plants...see what happens
to that. Then, I'll put a bit of moss (with flagfish eggs attached)...and
then we'll see what happens. My kind of fun. Okay, gang, I promise to let
you know what happens. Don't tell Takashi.<G> Rgrds, MES
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1. Re: Rhododendron branches (Chris Damour) (Christopher Damour)
2. Rhododendron branches (Nick Andrews)
3. Re: Rhododendron branches (Nick Ternes)
4. Re: Rhododendron branches (Jerry Smith)
5. Re: Rhododendron branches (Stuart Halliday)
6. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 65, Issue 13 (Mary Sweeney)
7. Gorse wood anyone? (Stuart Halliday)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:34:48 +0900
From: Christopher Damour <damourcd at gmail_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Rhododendron branches (Chris Damour)
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
Mary,
Most species of rhododendron are toxic. I would not use it in my
aquaria. It is too bad, I had a great looking stump from a rhododendron in
my yard that would have been perfect for my 55 GL otherwise.
Chris Damour
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:38:03 -0500
> From: "Mary Sweeney" <mrylln at verizon_net>
> Subject: [APD] Rhododendron branches
> To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Has anyone ever used rhododendron branches in aquaria? I have a good
> supply, and could see them covered with various mosses if they were
aquarium-safe.
>
> Best fishes,
> Mary Sweeney
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:35:32 -0500
From: Nick Andrews <nicothefabulous at hotmail_com>
Subject: [APD] Rhododendron branches
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Well, if they lose their leaves, they are generally a hardwood. If they are
evergreen, they are softwoods...
Nick A
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:55:12 -0600
From: "Nick Ternes" <woodland_gardens at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Rhododendron branches
To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
I would generally agree with this statement for woods used as construction
materials, but it doesn't apply to all wood. Many deciduous trees are
softwood and many conifers are hardwood.
Broadleaf evergreens (like Rhododendrons) and deciduous conifers also
further complicate things.
Regardless, I would think that Rhododendrons would be unsuitable as they are
generally toxic. The buds are resinous, so I would think the wood would
secrete some oils as well. The best test? Buy some feeder guppes and use a
good amount of rhododendron wood in their tank.
Nick Ternes
Oostburg, WI
WAKO
AKA
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Nick Andrews <nicothefabulous at hotmail_com>
wrote:
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> Well, if they lose their leaves, they are generally a hardwood. If they
are evergreen, they are softwoods...
>
> Nick A
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:13:57 -0500
From: Jerry Smith <jerrytheplater at hotmail_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Rhododendron branches
To: "aquatic-plants at actwin_com" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Mary
I used to be a beekeeper years ago. I read in a book called The Hive and the
Honeybee, I think published by Dadant and Son, and in the chapter on various
honey produced from plants they stated Rhododendron honey is poisonous to
humans but will not harm the bees. This book has been used as a textbook for
college courses in Apiculture so it is a well documented authoritative text
book.
I think the idea of testing the wood in a tank with feeder fish is an
excellent idea. Let us know what you come up with.
Jerry Smith
Bloomingdale, NJ> Message: 7> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:38:03 -0500> From:
"Mary Sweeney" <mrylln at verizon_net>> Subject: [APD] Rhododendron branches>
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>> > Has anyone ever used rhododendron
branches in aquaria? I have a good supply,> and could see them covered with
various mosses if they were aquarium-safe.> > Best fishes,> Mary Sweeney
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:03:29 +0000
From: Stuart Halliday <stuart at mytriops_com>
Subject: Re: [APD] Rhododendron branches
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
I believe Jerry Smith wrote this email section below:
> Mary
>
> I used to be a beekeeper years ago. I read in a book called The Hive
> and the Honeybee, I think published by Dadant and Son, and in the
> chapter on various honey produced from plants they stated Rhododendron
> honey is poisonous to humans but will not harm the bees. This book has
> been used as a textbook for college courses in Apiculture so it is a
> well documented authoritative text book.
Hmmm I wonder how the Bee Keepers stop the Bees bringing back Rhododendron
Pollen? Plenty of these plants around.
> I think the idea of testing the wood in a tank with feeder fish is an
> excellent idea. Let us know what you come up with.
Some of us may not like testing on animals in that manner. Also it's
probably an illegal act in most of Europe. I know it is in the UK.
--
Stuart Halliday
http://mytriops.com/
200 Million years in the making...
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:37:00 -0500
From: "Mary Sweeney" <mrylln at verizon_net>
Subject: Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 65, Issue 13
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>>>> ...ever used rhododendron branches in aquaria?
>>Is this a soft or hard wood do you know?
>>I read somewhere that soft woods excrete oil and so are to be avoided.
>>--
>>Stuart Halliday
http://mytriops.com/
200 Million years in the making...
It's quite dense, actually. I guess I'll put some in a bucket and see what
brews.
I have a mental picture of upright rhodo branches with Christmas Moss, et
al, as the "leaves" at the top. If the branches are safe, they would be
interesting supports for moss trees. They're gnarled and twisty, and they
don't have much in the way of bark.
Thanks,
Mary
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:39:55 +0000
From: Stuart Halliday <stuart at mytriops_com>
Subject: [APD] Gorse wood anyone?
To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
I believe Christopher Damour wrote this email section below:
> Mary,
> Most species of rhododendron are toxic. I would not use it in my
> aquaria. It is too bad, I had a great looking stump from a
> rhododendron in my yard that would have been perfect for my 55 GL
> otherwise.
I wonder if Gorse wood (Ulex europaeus) would be OK?
Tonnes of the stuff here is Scotland and it would look very twisted and
interesting as driftwood in a tank.
Far 'Greener' than most imported woods from half way across the planet!
Seemingly you can make Tea out of the flowers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulex_europaeus
--
Stuart Halliday
http://mytriops.com/
200 Million years in the making...
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