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Re: [APD] Getting shot of Nitrate Xperiment

I believe Robert T. Ricketts wrote this email section below:
> Paul Krombholz asked about Stuart Halliday's experiments, and Stuart replied
> (in a new thread labeled "Hiccup") with some very interesting data.
> I have seen what appeared to be inhibition of bacterial division reported
> with TAN titers of 5-8ppm and above, but this is the first I have seen from
> such low titers as the 1-2ppm TAN Stuart tried.
> The earliest work Chris Cow (a.k.a. "Nomad") did on "fishless" cycling used
> initial titers of ~3ppm TAN, reduced by ~50% once the ammonia-oxidizers were
> established.  The bacterial inoculation used was not the then-available
> commercial products (which were ineffective), but the rock wool from
> commercially grown potted aquarium plants.  My beta tests were done with
> plant potting material from Florida Aquatic Nurseries.  It appears that such
> pots do develop nitrification bacteria in the circulating hydroponic baths
> used for the pots at the nurseries.  I had no problems with the inocula, and
> no sign of any inhibition of either bacterial form involved using the
> original protocol later popularized on the web.


> I have not tried any of the currently available commercial products.  The
> earlier production of one current product "Dr. Tom's One and Only",
> previously marketed as BioSpira form another firm, did support a basically
> normal fishless cycles under that earlier label.
> I wonder if the "Startright" product, and perhaps even the current "Dr.
> Tom's..." are more sensitive, or have reduced bacterial population
> densities, or some other factor making them more sensitive to un-oxidized
> metabolites?

Safestart is Biospira. Tetra bought Marineland labs  lock, stock and barrel 
last year/2 years. :-)
Only difference with One & Only is that it is suppose to last longer at room 
temperature. Something Biospira couldn't handle.
I asked 'Dr. Tim' and he can't comment due to the legal contract due to the 
buy out.

Biospira needed refrigeration, this obviously seriously limited it selling 
potential as shops (in the UK at least) don't have fridges only freezers.

Tetra makes no mention of keeping Safestart at 5C, so I'm tempted to think 
they're just ignoring the issue. Dr. Tim seems to own the dormant bacteria 
rights, so unless Tetra licensed it off him, then it should be kept cold.

> Fascinating stuff Stuart.  Planning any more thought-provoking trials?

Oh yes. I've got a pile of bacteria bottles here, including the old and new 
Cycle by Nutrafin/Hagon.

The fishless ammonia cycle took the longest to plough through...

Stuart Halliday
200 Million years in the making...
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