Re: [APD] Poor gastrpods just don't get not respect

[Dave Wilson <aqua_green at bigpond.com>]

Thanks Ken,

I have a coal grunter in another pond.   I will try him in with the plants
to see what happens.

Cheers
Dave






On 20/8/06 9:41 AM, "Ken McDougall" <ken_mcdougall20012001 at yahoo_com> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>  
> I have a coal grunter that is good at removing snails.
>  
> Regards
> Ken
> 
> Dave Wilson <aqua_green at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been testing one of Australia's snails as a possible planted tank
> compatible snail for over a year now and so far it has been great, just
> cleaning up around the plants and not eating any of the growing foliage.
> 
> The snail is 50mm across and is said to be Australias largest freshwater
> snail. Waterhouse's Snail, Notopala waterhousei. You can see a picture
> on the ANGFA database http://db.angfa.org.au It lives in permanent
> water in the dryer parts of Australia.
> 
> One of its tank mates, The Blond Snail, Austropeplia lessonni is positively
> evil with plants, eating the new growth and putting holes in everything
> growing. 
> 
> I am still looking for the no snails cure for 80,000 litre ponds. We have
> tried copper, trichlorofon, chlorothalonil, physical removal and a whole
> range of other ideas. Chlorothalonil defoliated all the plants but was
> probably the most effective to date. The snails alwayus seem to come back.
> 
> Next will probably be Hyrtles Catfish and Emydura Turtles, these are local
> animals that eat snails. A friend has a turtle pond with lots of plants
> from me. There were large amounts of snails, then he put in two Emydura
> turtles, now the snails are gone and they don¹t seem to dig up the plants.
> 
> Clown loaches were tried in the ponds but I think it may have been too
> hostile for them as they died out over a two year period. The water
> quality was OK, may have been a disease from local fish, rainbows and
> blue-eyes sometimes have some evil parasites when they come out of the
> creek, especieally in the late dry season when everything is concentrated
> into a smaller area and water quality is reduced from low or no flow.
> 
> If anyone has seen any new snail remedies I would love to hear about them.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 20/8/06 6:17 AM, "Thomas Barr" wrote:
> 
>> Why do they pick on snails?
>> They make good herbivores.
>> 
>> 
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0012-9658%28199306%2974%3A4%3C1264%3ATABCOS%>>
3
>> E2.0.CO%3B2-G&size=LARGE
>> 
>> http://www.springerlink.com/content/v52953lv1088pk70/
>> 
>> Old myth that they eat live plants(some species do, the 3-5 main
>> species we like and often have do not)Eating dead/dying plants
>> and not eating live plants?
>> 
>> http://www.springerlink.com/content/hx407k2203448633/
>> 
>> It suggest why that may be.
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Tom Barr
>> 
>> www.BarrReport.com
>> 
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