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Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 16



C02 system
Steve, thanks to Rich Green, I over come my fear of using this system and
his kind donation  of a regulator and tubing, I now wish I could have had a
system a few years ago. Plants do so much better and less hassle than making
up homemade C02.  I am now able to donate my plant trimmings to others.
Wilma
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Subject: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 16


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>    1. Re: CO2 systems (Steve B)
>    2. Re: Automatic fish feeder (Jerry Smith)
>    3. Re: Automatic fish feeder (Donald Hellen)
>    4. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15 (George Booth)
>    5. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15 (Liz Wilhite)
>    6. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15 (S. Hieber)
>    7. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15 (Jerry Baker)
>    8. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15 (Liz Wilhite)
>    9. Automatic water changing (Vaughn Hopkins)
>   10. Re: Automatic water changing (Jerry Baker)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:04:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Steve B <habubak at yahoo_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] CO2 systems
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Good afternoon, everyone!
>
>   Thanks so much for sharing your experiences, opinions, and revelations!
I have located a local CO2 supplier and will be ordering my CO2 system
(solenoid, tubing, bubble counter) shortly, perhaps later this evening.
>
>   The greatest compliment I can give everyone on this list is that, thanks
to the wonderful flurry of discussions and experience-relating stories, I
can now go into my CO2 system purchase with MUCH more confidence and MUCH
less trepidation.  I also feel less intimidated by the mechanics and
gadgetry. A big huge THANK YOU to everyone who responded!  I appreciate it
very much, and I will keep you all updated on what I end up getting!
>
>   Cheers & Gig'Em,
>   Steve
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:03:39 -0400
> From: "Jerry Smith" <jerrytheplater at hotmail_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Automatic fish feeder
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
>
> Don
>
> I used a feeder of the type that has portions of food on a horizontal disc
> that rotates by a clock drive motor. The food gets pushed around the disc
> until it falls into the tank. The one problem I found was that the
humidity
> in the tank caused the food to get wet and gummed up the feeder. It was a
> mess. The feeder does have provision for an airline to be attached to blow
> dry air through the unit. I never tried this. I also don't use the feeder
> anymore as the fish don't need it in my tank over a weekend, or even for 2
> weeks.
>
> Jerry Smith
>
> >Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 13:14:46 -0400
> >From: Donald Hellen <donhellen at horizonview_net>
> >Subject: [APD] Automatic fish feeder
>
> >We're thinking of buying an automatic fish feeder,
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:37:42 -0400
> From: Donald Hellen <donhellen at horizonview_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Automatic fish feeder
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:03:39 -0400, "Jerry Smith"
> <jerrytheplater at hotmail_com> wrote:
>
> >I used a feeder of the type that has portions of food on a horizontal
disc
> >that rotates by a clock drive motor. The food gets pushed around the disc
> >until it falls into the tank.
>
> You make a good point about how that type allowed the
> food to pick up moisture. I didn't like that
> arrangement.
>
> One thing that I looked for in product descriptions was
> that it was moisture proof or resistant. I didn't want
> to hook up an air line. The Eheim adds its own air
> somehow. That seems like a good arrangement but it's
> double what I hoped to pay. Most of the cheap ones
> didn't say they were moisture proof. Some reviews I
> read said moisture could be a problem with this or that
> product.
>
> The one I bought is supposed to be free of problems
> with moisture. Hopefully that will prove to be the
> case.
>
> Don
> --------------------------------
> Imagination is more important than knowledge.
>    -Albert Einstein
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:16:53 -0600
> From: "George Booth" <gbooth at frii_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15
> To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> > Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 17:16:54 -0400
> > From: Phaylanx at webtv_net (Phaylanx At Chess)
> >
> > IT IS BETTER FOR THE MAJORITY TO LISEN TO YOU----------TOOO MANY BOSSES
> > NEVER GET THE JOB DONE
>
> Thanks.  That was extremely informative and not bizarre at all.  I will
> quickly apply this to all my aquaristic endeavors.
>
> Best Regards,
> George Booth
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:22:22 -0700
> From: "Liz Wilhite" <satirica at gmail_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15
> To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> On 7/10/06, George Booth <gbooth at frii_com> wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 17:16:54 -0400
> > > From: Phaylanx at webtv_net (Phaylanx At Chess)
> > >
> > > IT IS BETTER FOR THE MAJORITY TO LISEN TO YOU----------TOOO MANY
BOSSES
> > > NEVER GET THE JOB DONE
> >
> > Thanks.  That was extremely informative and not bizarre at all.  I will
> > quickly apply this to all my aquaristic endeavors.
>
>
> Gosh, George, does that mean you are going to have a Boss undergravel
cable
> and several worker undergravel cables?  What happens if the worker cables
> unionize?  Are you gonna get an HR Department collections of cables to
deal
> with the potential union cables or what?
>
> Sorry, I've been working long hours...
>
> --
> Liz
> http://pottedliz.home.comcast.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 04:27:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Let's not forget that George and Karla's excellent website
>
> http://aquaticconcepts.thekrib.com/
>
> was been an inspiration to a generation of novice aquatic gardeners.
They've shared much more than just their expereince with cables.
>
> They were, for example early champions of adding CO2.
>
> I tend to just skip over the nonsense, bumpersticker type posts. But when
the anonymous Phaylanx's puts a post like the out there like that one,
he/she is just begging for sarcasm. Which is one reason I enjoy Liz's posts
so much. If you can't say something nice about aquatic plants, at least say
some funny.
>
> sh
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Liz Wilhite <satirica at gmail_com>
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:22:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15
>
>
> On 7/10/06, George Booth <gbooth at frii_com> wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 17:16:54 -0400
> > > From: Phaylanx at webtv_net (Phaylanx At Chess)
> > >
> > > IT IS BETTER FOR THE MAJORITY TO LISEN TO YOU----------TOOO MANY
BOSSES
> > > NEVER GET THE JOB DONE
> >
> > Thanks.  That was extremely informative and not bizarre at all.  I will
> > quickly apply this to all my aquaristic endeavors.
>
>
> Gosh, George, does that mean you are going to have a Boss undergravel
cable
> and several worker undergravel cables?  . . . Sorry, I've been working
long hours...
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:47:01 -0700
> From: Jerry Baker <jerry at bakerweb_biz>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> S. Hieber wrote:
> > If you can't say something nice about aquatic plants, at least say some
funny.
>
> I find it increasingly difficult to find anything nice to say about
> house-guests that seem to devour as much money as they, and the only
> thing I get in return is another chore to do on the weekends.
>
> Ungrateful I tell ya.
>
> --
> Jerry Baker
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:33:07 -0700
> From: "Liz Wilhite" <satirica at gmail_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15
> To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> On 7/11/06, Jerry Baker <jerry at bakerweb_biz> wrote:
> >
> > S. Hieber wrote:
> > > If you can't say something nice about aquatic plants, at least say
some
> > funny.
> >
> > I find it increasingly difficult to find anything nice to say about
> > house-guests that seem to devour as much money as they, and the only
> > thing I get in return is another chore to do on the weekends.
> >
> >
> And when you have spent a *bleeping* fortune on some fancy substrate like
> Eco-Complete, the least the buggers could do is stay planted in it.  But
no,
> they insist on riding the spray bar roller coaster.
>
> It's been almost a month since I mentioned how much I love the look of
> Eco-Complete and hate planting -- or attempting to plant -- in it.
>
> --
> Liz
> http://pottedliz.home.comcast.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:47:56 -0700
> From: Vaughn Hopkins <hoppycalif at yahoo_com>
> Subject: [APD] Automatic water changing
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> While enjoying a nice shower this morning I had a "light bulb"
> moment!  My showers use Delta shower controls, which allow you to
> adjust the water temperature with a little knob, then forevermore the
> water will be at that temperature, no matter if someone else is
> showering, the clothes washing machine being run, a toilet being
> flushed, or anything else.  The only thing that changes that set
> temperature is someone adjusting the water heater setting.  I have
> installed a few of these controls myself so I am  pretty familiar
> with them.
>
> "Light bulb ON"   Why not plumb one of these into the water supply,
> hot and cold, in the garage or where ever the water heater is, run
> the output thru the appropriate piping and valves to the aquarium?
> Then, to add more water to the fish tank, just turn on the "shower" -
> and you get water of the appropriate temperature, automatically.
>
> I am just about off and running on this, but maybe someone has tried
> this already and found flaws in it?  If it will work I am willing to
> thumb my nose at my condo association, drill a hole thru the outside
> wall, run piping so I can drain and refill, all from under the tank,
> using just two valves.
>
> I just  purchased, used, from Craigslist, a 45 gallon Jebo R375 with
> a matching stand, and with a drilled hole in the upper right corner.
> I can put in a permanent drain/refill line thru that - using a slip
> fit inside the tank so I can plug in a substrate vacuum hose for
> substrate cleaning, or a screened drain for routine drains and refills.
>
> I feel like an Oscar winner here!
>
> Vaughn H.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:52:23 -0700
> From: Jerry Baker <jerry at bakerweb_biz>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Automatic water changing
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Vaughn Hopkins wrote:
> > "Light bulb ON"   Why not plumb one of these into the water supply,
> > hot and cold, in the garage or where ever the water heater is, run
> > the output thru the appropriate piping and valves to the aquarium?
> > Then, to add more water to the fish tank, just turn on the "shower" -
> > and you get water of the appropriate temperature, automatically.
>
> When I had good water right out of the tap I attached a small LCD
> thermometer to the faucet stem of my kitchen sink. I attached Python,
> adjusted temperature to desired range, and away I went.
>
> --
> Jerry Baker
>
>
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