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Re: [APD] Co2 poisoning? chlorine maybe? help!



Ok a little update. I'm rather amazed right now at what just happened... My
blood parrot has been acting more and more reclusive the last couple days in
which I've been still obsessing about the reason all my fish died. Today she
was looking really pale and refusing to eat so I decided to do a complete
water change on my 10 gallon hospital tank which I found the nitrates to be
rather high in (stupid I didn't check this before when I put sick fish in
there). I set it up with some Seachem Neutral Regulator which on top of
adjusting the ph it removes chlorine, chloramine, and ammonia. I figured if
it was this chloramine problem you guys were talking about then this could
solve the problem... so I transfer her over and about five minutes later I
go to check on her and all of her color has returned and she's swimming
around as happy as can be!
So either there's some obscure toxin in my tank or you guys are right and
that wardley watercare is bullshit and they just started adding chloramine
to my tap water!
One problem though, I just tested my tap water for ammonia (I read that you
can test for chloromine with a regular ammonia test kit) and it turned up
negitive...
Well... I guess that makes things, yet again rather puzzling...

On 2/22/06, Joel Fizette <sentientpuppet at gmail_com> wrote:
>
> Yeah I think I will phone them today... on a sad note all my barbs and
> bala sharks are dead except for one lonely bala... But I want to get some
> angels anyway. I think I may have figured out what the problem was. I think
> there was problably a spike in the ph that caused them to maybe get some
> sort of bacterial infections? sound likely? a couple of them had bloody
> spots or some sort of fuzzy white stuff on them.
>
> On 2/22/06, S. Hieber <shieber at yahoo_com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Neutralizes chloramine, but it doesn't day what it does with the ammonia
> > that result from busting up the chloramine.
> >
> > sh
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Stuart Halliday < stuart at stuarthalliday_com>
> > To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:26:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [APD] Co2 poisoning? chlorine maybe? help!
> >
> >
> > I believe Andrew McLeod wrote this email section below:
> > > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:23:52 -0000, Joel Fizette
> > > <sentientpuppet at gmail_com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yes I do add an anti-chloramine the same one I stated in my origional
> > >> post. I've been using it for over a year without any problems.
> > >
> > > Although it may not be the source of your problems (or indeed a
> > problem
> > > at all), I can't find evidence on Google that Wardley's Chlor-Out
> > deals
> > > with the ammonia produced from the splitting of the chlorine-ammonia
> > bond
> > > in chloramine properly.
> >
> > Their web site on this product just says:
> >
> > Wardley(r) Essentials™ Chlor Out™ safely and effectively neutralizes
> > chlorine
> > and chloramines in tap water. Municipal water companies add chlorine or
> > chloramines to the water supply to kill harmful bacteria.
> >
> > This can be hazardous or even fatal to ornamental aquarium fish.
> > Wardley(r)
> > Essentials™ Chlor Out™ will instantly condition tap water when changing
> > or
> > adding water to the aquarium and when transporting or transferring fish.
> >
> >
> > Wardley(r) Essentials™ Chlor Out™ has little impact on biological
> > filtration.
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought American companies had to list ingredients?
> >
> > The owner of this product can phone them and ask them to be sure?
> >
> > 1-800-275-1414
> >
> >
> > > Many manufacturers claim to deal with chloramine,
> > > but actually only split the molecule up and deal with the chlorine
> > part,
> > > and do not deal with the ammonia part.
> >
> > Shocking.
> >
> > > In many cases where a region has
> > > suddenly switched to using chloramine at a high level, people have
> > > reported sudden fish deaths after water changes when using the cheaper
> > > dechlorinators.
> >
> >
> > Happened in Edinburgh, Scotland last year.
> >
> > Many dozens of families woke up to dead fish one week as the water
> > supplier
> > switched to chloramine without tell anyone!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stuart Halliday
> >
> >
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