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Re: [APD] Crypt melt



Charlie, 
Crypt leaf rot is a semi common environmental issue (use to be
more common in year's past), it is not a "disease" caused by
another organism as speculated years ago.

Generally poor nutrients(K+/Ca/Mg/NO3), low sub par CO2 levels
encourage it. If you change lighting radically etc, they can rot
some also, or if you never do water changes and then decide it's
time, then they might rot.

Some plants response to the enviromnetal changes by losing their
leaves, like in winter or dry season with many species of trees.
In rivers and streams(lotic systems), many do this when the
rains come and there is high water, low nutrients and virtually
no light. Bad time to have leaves. Crypts can melt down in one
day, not any trace of the leaves or stems left. 

If you maintain a decent stable environment, Crypts will seldom
ever give you any issue and they are highly adaptable to many
light levels, nutrients sources(It's a myth they "prefer"
substrate feeding, they do just as well if not better with water
column nutrient dosing, same for swords), high levels of trace
metals(Fe and Cu etc).

Just wait, provide good conditions and the rhizomes will sprout
new leaves. Be patient, the plant will come back.

Regards, 
Tom Barr

www.BarrReport.com

 







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>    5. Re: Please Edit or Snip posts (Jerry Baker)
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>   10. Re: Please Edit or Snip posts (S. Hieber)
>   11. Re: Please Edit or Snip posts (Bob Crosby)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:47:51 -0600
> From: urville <urville at peoplepc_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Please Edit or Snip posts
> To: stuart at stuarthalliday_com,	aquatic plants digest
> 	<aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> nice point i had no idea. but then thats the first I have ever
> heard of it.
> and theres nothing wrong with top posting.
> ian
> 
> Stuart Halliday wrote:
> 
> >Bill D wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>I don't recall any solution to the problem in the achives
> except requests to
> >>the main perpetretor that he use more care.  Fortunately
> only one or two are
> >>afflicted with the problem.
> >>
> >>Bill
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >It works if people followed an old and basic netiquette rule
> and placed 
> >in their signature the required correct signature separator
> format.
> >
> >I see you don't do this for example. ;-)
> >
> >A correct signature separator is two minus letters followed
> by a space 
> >and a new line.
> >
> >Then any half decent email program will snip off the
> signature and all 
> >the crap below it.
> >
> >See my own signature for an example.
> >
> >If you click on the Reply icon in your email program it will
> cut off the 
> >  mailing list stuff as well.
> >
> >Give it a try with this email. :-))
> >
> >
> >P.S.
> >It wouldn't help with idiots who top post. But that's another
> tale...
> >:-)
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:08:46 +0200
> From: Phillip Grobler <pfgrobler at gmail_com>
> Subject: [APD] Paintball CO2 regulator
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> End of last year  Andy Lavery posted about manufacturing some
> CO2 
> regulators for Paintball CO2 cylinders.
> Does any one know what has happened with this or whether they
> were ever 
> made ?
> 
> Phillip Grobler
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:56:56 -0600
> From: urville <urville at peoplepc_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Paintball CO2 regulator
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> I dont. But i do knw there are regulators already out there
> that fit 
> paintball standard fittings and can be adjusted from literally
> gushing 
> gas around 200 to about 1 or 2 psi i think. look around i know
> there is 
> one. I was going to go this same route for awhile until i
> realized the 
> local gas place rented big tanks for about 10 a month.
> Ian
> 
> Phillip Grobler wrote:
> 
> >End of last year  Andy Lavery posted about manufacturing some
> CO2 
> >regulators for Paintball CO2 cylinders.
> >Does any one know what has happened with this or whether they
> were ever 
> >made ?
> >
> >Phillip Grobler
> >
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:15:59 +0100
> From: Stuart Halliday <stuart at stuarthalliday_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Please Edit or Snip posts
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
> 
> urville wrote:
> 
> > and theres nothing wrong with top posting.
> > ian
> 
> The world disagrees with you.
> 
> It's an abomination made popular by Microsoft and their
> dysfunctional programs.
> 
> Top-posting makes posts incomprehensible. Firstly: In normal
> conversations, 
> one does not answer to something that has not yet been said.
> So it is 
> unclear to reply to the top, whilst the original message is at
> the bottom. 
> Secondly: In western society a book is normally read from top
> to bottom. 
> Top-posting forces one to stray from this convention: Reading
> some at the 
> top, skipping to the bottom to read the question, and going
> back to the top 
> to continue. This annoyance increases even more than linear
> with the number 
> of top-posts in the message. If someone replies to a thread
> and you forgot 
> what the thread was all about, or that thread was incomplete
> for some 
> reasons, it will be quite tiresome to rapidly understand what
> the thread was 
> all about, due to bad posting and irrelevant text which has
> not been removed.
> 
> To prevent hideously long posts with a minimal account of new
> text, it is 
> good Usenet and email practice to remove the non-relevant
> parts and 
> optionally summarize the relevant parts of the original post,
> with regard to 
> one's reply. Top-posting inevitably leads to long posts,
> because most 
> top-posters leave the original message intact. All these long
> posts not only 
> clutter up discussions, but they also clutter up the server
> space.
> 
> Top-posting makes it hard for bottom-posters to reply to the
> relevant parts: 
> it not possible to answer within the original message.
> Bottom-posting does 
> not make top-posting any harder.
> 
> A reason given by stubborn top-posters: they don't like to
> scroll to read 
> the new message (ah shame).
> We like to disagree here, because we always have to scroll
> down to see the 
> original message and after that to scroll back up, just to see
> to what they 
> are replying to. As a result you have to scroll twice as much
> when reading a 
> top-poster's message. As a counterargument they say (believe
> us some do): 
> "You can check the previous message in the discussion". This
> is even more 
> tiresome than scrolling and with the unreliable nature of the
> Internet, the 
> previous message in the discussion can be simply unavailable.
> 
> 
> P.S.
> Oh and finally there really is no need to double post your
> email.
> I don't really need one post in my inbox *and* one in my
> mailing list folder.
> But thanks anyway.:-))
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Halliday
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:20:34 -0700
> From: Jerry Baker <jerry at bakerweb_biz>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Please Edit or Snip posts
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> Stuart Halliday wrote:
> > P.S.
> > Oh and finally there really is no need to double post your
> email.
> > I don't really need one post in my inbox *and* one in my
> mailing list folder.
> > But thanks anyway.:-))
> 
> That is because your mail client is adding a reply-to header
> that 
> includes your personal address. The list server is then
> appending the 
> list to that so that pressing reply causes a message to be
> addressed to 
> your personal email and the list. In other words, in order not
> to 
> privately email people on the list who use a reply-to header,
> it is 
> necessary to manually remove their address from every reply.
> 
> -- 
> Jerry Baker
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:28:21 -0600
> From: urville <urville at peoplepc_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Please Edit or Snip posts
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> i didnt realize it was double posting. sorry. thats
> thunderbird i didnt 
> choose that.
> i read email like actual mail not like talking. i dont go back
> to the 
> old message i remember it much like an actual letter.
> i also dont reply in that form which to me feels backwards. if
> i do 
> reply in parts i cut and paste those relevant parts in order
> into my 
> message. although i could argue that its not needed ever to
> quote.
> the world does alot of things i dont agree with and i can
> think of a 
> good few i'm not about to adopt.
> but for the sake of  it since everyone here is generally great
> people 
> i'll try to remember to bottom post, but i'll say it's
> horribly annoying 
> to have to scroll through all that crap to get to the new
> message, it 
> just is, and doubly so when people have every message since
> the creation 
> in there. i already read it, once is enough, why read it more
> than once.
> just my nickel.
> Ian
> 
> Stuart Halliday wrote:
> 
> >The world disagrees with you.
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:34:12 +0100
> From: Stuart Halliday <stuart at stuarthalliday_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Please Edit or Snip posts
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> Jerry Baker wrote:
> > Stuart Halliday wrote:
> >> P.S.
> >> Oh and finally there really is no need to double post your
> email.
> >> I don't really need one post in my inbox *and* one in my
> mailing list folder.
> >> But thanks anyway.:-))
> > 
> > That is because your mail client is adding a reply-to header
> that 
> > includes your personal address. The list server is then
> appending the 
> > list to that so that pressing reply causes a message to be
> addressed to 
> > your personal email and the list. In other words, in order
> not to 
> > privately email people on the list who use a reply-to
> header, it is 
> > necessary to manually remove their address from every reply.
> 
> I never noticed this. Thanks for pointing this out Jerry.
> 
> I've made the correction.
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Halliday
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:52:53 -0700
> From: Liz Wilhite <satirica at gmail_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Please Edit or Snip posts
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> On 10/10/05, urville <urville at peoplepc_com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > but for the sake of it since everyone here is generally
> great people
> > i'll try to remember to bottom post,
> 
>  I am on an email list that has a rule that you must top-post.
> I'd suggest
> you post where you d*mned please.
>  I've been on the internet since before it was called the
> Internet and used
> to send email to people when you had to know how to actually
> route email to
> get it delivered. I generally enjoy netiquette debates and
> arguments because
> everyone has their own idea of what the "rules" really are. I
> love "old
> school" complaints abut new technology.
>  BTW, Google mail does a pretty good job of hiding all the
> non-useful quoted
> text even if the person writing doesn't know or care about the
> old rules for
> how signatures are to be attached. I haven't read an
> accidentally attched
> digest since I switched. I think the philosophy is "since
> everyone is going
> to do their own thing let's use technology to adapt."
>  Liz
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:42:28 -0400
> From: "Charlie" <Charlie_Shaw at SecureStat.com>
> Subject: [APD] Cryptocorne dissolving
> To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> Is it possible to upload pics. to this post? I have several
> cryps growing in
> my tank. Every now and then an entire leaf and stem will just
> dissolve. It
> just turns limp, and breaks down rather quickly into an opaque
> mush. It
> seems to coincide with dosing of fert. but I am unsure. Does
> anyone know
> what this might be? Is it normal?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:43:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Please Edit or Snip posts
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
> 
> well, like I said, it's all in the archives already -- no
> solutions, just opinions. And just about every option is
> favored by someone.
> 
> Or we could talk about middle posting or scatter posting --
> post through a prior post where one has a comment to make.
> Tom Does that and so do I, sometimes.
> 
> Everyone doesn't gotta talk just like everybody else. Or
> even type just like everybody else. OR even like
> themselves. A little change-up is nice too.
> 
> Read what you like, skip the rest. Now, back to important
> stuff like the color of water in white buckets in an unlit
> room. . .  ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:01:22 -0500
> From: "Bob Crosby" <rtcrosby at charter_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Please Edit or Snip posts
> To: "'aquatic plants digest'" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> 
>  
> <snip> Now, back to important stuff like the color of water in
> white buckets
> in an unlit room. . .  ;-)<snip>
> 
> 
> Would that come under the same category as a black cat in a
> coal bin at
> night? :-o
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
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