i only use silen-x fans now , and i love them, the computer company i ususlly buy from is ncix.com <http://ncix.com> and they now carry silenx fans, best on the market, ncix will also match any competitor price and they cant be beat on shipping _______________________________________________ Aquatic-Plants mailing list Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo/aquatic-plants