Re: [APD] Phosphates too much? any alternative answers to reducin g the problem.

["S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>]

This might be relevent to your issue:

Chloramine is a very stable compound, at least until it
meets up with digestive juices in the stomach or, in an
aquarium, certain aquarium addititives that split the
compound into it's components.

Some of the additives that "break the chloramine" bond
leave chlorine and ammonia in the water -- thanks a lot
overhyped additive. But SeaChem's Prime breaks the bond and
then, besides binding or rendering harmless other chemicals
in the water, binds the ammonia in a form that the plants
can still use but that won't hurt the fish and isn't
readily available to algae.

get real, get live plants,
sh

--- Nicolas Munro <nmunro at qld_yokogawa.com.au> wrote:

> 
> What was that about Chloramine?  does it feed algae?
> 
> Ammonia is 0 for tap water, my tank usually sits about
> 1ppm ammonia to 
> 10ppm depending how much I've been feeding the fish and
> how good my 
> vacuuming skills are on the day.
> 
> I'm starting to wonder if Phosphate does actually harm
> the fish cause 
> when my phosphates are up my fish start to get fin-rot
> disease.
> 
> =Nick
> 
> Vaughn Hopkins wrote:
> 
> > Nick,
> > Phosphate is a beneficial chemical, an essential
> fertilizer for 
> > plants.  Tom Barr has reported that even high levels of
> phosphate 
> > don't do harm to plants or fish, nor cause algae.  Are
> you using plant 
> > sticks or similar substrate fertilizers?  If so, that
> could be a 
> > source of the phosphate increase you seem to have, plus
> it could be 
> > adding NH4 to the water column, and that will cause an
> algae problem.  
> > Or, you could be adding NH4 by changing water, if your
> water has 
> > Chloramine instead of chlorine in it, and again that
> could be feeding 
> > the algae.
> >
> > Vaughn H.
> >
> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2005, at 08:18 PM, Nicolas
> Munro wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a more naturally occurring product I can add
> to my substrate?
> >>
> >> kinda like peat or carbon?
> >>
> >> Liam Newcombe wrote:
> >>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>> I had very high Phosphates as well in my tank, the
> test kit went to 
> >>> full colour (5ppm) in <10 seconds not the 2 minutes
> stated. I now 
> >>> use D&D RowaPhos Phosphate remover in one of their
> fluid bed 
> >>> reactors. It got rid of the phosphate in a day and
> really stunted 
> >>> the growth of the blue-green stringy algae. I still
> get the light 
> >>> green stringy algae but that is from my (still  too
> high) nitrate 
> >>> level.
> >>> There are other equivalent products for Rowaphos from
> other vendors 
> >>> as well but I have no experience with those.
> >>>
> >>> Liam
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Nicolas Munro
> [mailto:nmunro at qld_yokogawa.com.au] Sent: 10 
> >>> August 2005 04:47
> >>> To: aquatic plants digest
> >>> Subject: [APD] Phosphates too much? any alternative
> answers to 
> >>> reducing the problem.
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I have a Hagen test kit which says under 1 ppm is ok
> (as far as I 
> >>> can recall) and the test measurement should be taken
> after 2 minutes 
> >>> of reaction and it has a high level of 5ppm.
> >>>
> >>> I'm getting a high reading of Phosphate in my water.
> When I test my 
> >>> water I get more than 5ppm in just 30 seconds which
> to me indicates 
> >>> a problem.
> >>>
> >>> My fish tank is suffering from algae which sticks on
> the glass and 
> >>> also makes the water a slight green / yellow colour.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My question is simple but I can't find many
> alternatives,  how do I 
> >>> reduce the phosphate?
> >>>
> >>> I've got lots of live plants, I've tried underfeeding
> my fish for a 
> >>> week, I've tried replacing water very regularly (more
> than 90% for a 
> >>> couple of weeks/water changes) - my tap water by the
> way has 0.5ppm 
> >>> Phosphate after a reaction time of 2 minutes.
> >>>
> >>> _Are there any alternatives? _
> >>>
> >>> =Nick
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