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[APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 23, Issue 13
Larry,
This is all just guesses on my part, but I if wonder when the fish was
floating, it had too much air in the swimbladder, and now after the
lycopodium, it has either water or too little air in the swimbladder. I
would think that it is some kind of malfunction of the swimbladder, and not
a bacterial infection (which can also cause bottom sitting), since it came
on after feeding the lycopodium. However, this is all speculation.
In these situations, it is hard to know what to do.
Valerie
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> 1. help with finding inexpensive metal halides? (Jennifer Malmquist)
> 2. Re: help with finding inexpensive metal halides? (Tomoko Schum)
> 3. Re: Yeast/?algae bloom (Bruce Hansen)
> 4. Re: Re: Yeast/?algae bloom (Nicolas Munro)
> 5. Re: help with finding inexpensive metal halides? (Nicolas Munro)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:48:57 -0400
> From: Jennifer Malmquist <jenmalmquist at gmail_com>
> Subject: [APD] help with finding inexpensive metal halides?
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
>
> I have a 120 gallon planted tank lit with two 250W metal halide
> pendants. One bulb died this weekend and the other is looking dim so I
> started looking into replacements, as my LFS doesn't carry the bulbs I
> need. When I saw that bulbs sold specifically for aquariums on the
> pet-supply websites go for about $100 each I tried to look around for
> alternative sources. After doing some research on the Krib I have found
> that I should probably find at minimum bulbs with a CRI >90 and a temp
> of 5000K (at minimum, higher is probably better.) It seems as though
> bulbs with a lesser CRI and temperature could be used (and would be just
> fine for the plants) but apparently would cause the tank and light in
> the room to be an unpleasant color. The tank acts as a room divider
> between my dining and living rooms, so it's important to me that the
> light quality be pleasant. The tank has very few animal residents (a
> few shrimp, one incredibly large SAE, one angel, a few otos, one pleco
> and finally about a dozen tetras) and plants are primarily swords,
> crypts, aponogentons, and anubias. No fast growing plants because I'm
> lazy and don't want to spend the time on the maintenance. :)
>
> If anyone out there thinks that I'm incorrect (ie, a CRI of 60-70 on a
> 3500k bulb would be just fine - these bulbs were much less expensive)
> and/or can point me to a source I would be very grateful. Thank you!
>
> Jen
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:17:23 -0500
> From: "Tomoko Schum" <tomokoschum at knology_net>
> Subject: Re: [APD] help with finding inexpensive metal halides?
> To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Jennifer,
>
> Have you checked out Hellolights.com?
>
> http://www.hellolights.com/2565iw.html
>
> Tomoko
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jennifer Malmquist" <jenmalmquist at gmail_com>
> To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:48 AM
> Subject: [APD] help with finding inexpensive metal halides?
>
>
> > I have a 120 gallon planted tank lit with two 250W metal
> halide
> > pendants. One bulb died this weekend and the other is
> looking dim so I
> > started looking into replacements, as my LFS doesn't carry
> the bulbs I
> > need. When I saw that bulbs sold specifically for
> aquariums on the
> > pet-supply websites go for about $100 each I tried to look
> around for
> > alternative sources. After doing some research on the
> Krib I have found
> > that I should probably find at minimum bulbs with a CRI
> >90 and a temp
> > of 5000K (at minimum, higher is probably better.) It
> seems as though
> > bulbs with a lesser CRI and temperature could be used (and
> would be just
> > fine for the plants) but apparently would cause the tank
> and light in
> > the room to be an unpleasant color. The tank acts as a
> room divider
> > between my dining and living rooms, so it's important to
> me that the
> > light quality be pleasant. The tank has very few animal
> residents (a
> > few shrimp, one incredibly large SAE, one angel, a few
> otos, one pleco
> > and finally about a dozen tetras) and plants are primarily
> swords,
> > crypts, aponogentons, and anubias. No fast growing plants
> because I'm
> > lazy and don't want to spend the time on the maintenance.
> :)
> >
> > If anyone out there thinks that I'm incorrect (ie, a CRI
> of 60-70 on a
> > 3500k bulb would be just fine - these bulbs were much less
> expensive)
> > and/or can point me to a source I would be very grateful.
> Thank you!
> >
> > Jen
> > _______________________________________________
> > Aquatic-Plants mailing list
> > Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com
> > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo/aquatic-plants
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:01:55 +1000
> From: "Bruce Hansen" <toxotes at australis_net>
> Subject: [APD] Re: Yeast/?algae bloom
> To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> G'day Nick
>
> Are you absolutely sure some of your yeast culture isn't getting into your
> tank? You can plumb in a collecting chamber or even a CO2 washer in the
line
> from your yeast reactor to the powerhead. This can just be another small
> plastic drink bottle with 2 holes in the cap the line in from your reactor
> goes almost to the bottom , under a small amount of water, and the exit
line
> starts near the cap and goes to your powerhead. Then you can see by any
> turbidity in the water if any bubbles of yeast solution are being
> transferred.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bruce (Hansen)
>
> ANGFA (Qld) Inc - http://www.angfaqld.org.au/
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:32:51 +1000
> > From: Nicolas Munro <nmunro at qld_yokogawa.com.au>
> > Subject: [APD] Algae blume due to CO2 DIY Yeast?
> > To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Normally my tank is crystal clear. I've recently gotten into the whole
> > CO2 plant thing and decided to test out a 1litre DIY yeast and coke
> > bottle method.
> >
> > If I look long ways through my tank (1.4m) it appears a cloudy white
> > colour with about 25% reduction in transparency and besides the adding
> > some more plants from a friend and addition of a DIY YEAST generator
> > running Bakers Yeast and 1 cup of sugar in 500ml of water, I haven't
> > changed anything else in my set-up.
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:37:47 +1000
> From: Nicolas Munro <nmunro at qld_yokogawa.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [APD] Re: Yeast/?algae bloom
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> That could be what's happening, A couple of times I've seen bits of
> yeast water getting into the tank. I'll try that as soon as I finish my
> next coke bottle. (yay!)
>
> =Nick
>
> Bruce Hansen wrote:
>
> > G'day Nick
> >
> > Are you absolutely sure some of your yeast culture isn't getting into
> > your tank? You can plumb in a collecting chamber or even a CO2 washer
> > in the line from your yeast reactor to the powerhead. This can just be
> > another small plastic drink bottle with 2 holes in the cap the line in
> > from your reactor goes almost to the bottom , under a small amount of
> > water, and the exit line starts near the cap and goes to your
> > powerhead. Then you can see by any turbidity in the water if any
> > bubbles of yeast solution are being transferred.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bruce (Hansen)
> >
> > ANGFA (Qld) Inc - http://www.angfaqld.org.au/
> >
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:32:51 +1000
> >> From: Nicolas Munro <nmunro at qld_yokogawa.com.au>
> >> Subject: [APD] Algae blume due to CO2 DIY Yeast?
> >> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Normally my tank is crystal clear. I've recently gotten into the whole
> >> CO2 plant thing and decided to test out a 1litre DIY yeast and coke
> >> bottle method.
> >>
> >> If I look long ways through my tank (1.4m) it appears a cloudy white
> >> colour with about 25% reduction in transparency and besides the adding
> >> some more plants from a friend and addition of a DIY YEAST generator
> >> running Bakers Yeast and 1 cup of sugar in 500ml of water, I haven't
> >> changed anything else in my set-up.
> >>
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:18:23 +1000
> From: Nicolas Munro <nmunro at qld_yokogawa.com.au>
> Subject: [APD] Re: help with finding inexpensive metal halides?
> To: aquatic plants digest <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
>
> Jennifer, try ebay - Lots of variety there and much cheaper in most cases.
>
>
> I have 10k fluros at home and a 5.5k fluoro which is very orange in
> comparison. What is the difference between 10k and 20k light or even 20k
> and 5.5k.
>
> I know the technical difference but I'm wondering what people feelings
> and preferences are? I want to grow fresh water plants.
>
> =Nick
>
>
>
> Jennifer Malmquist wrote:
>
> > I have a 120 gallon planted tank lit with two 250W metal halide
> > pendants. One bulb died this weekend and the other is looking dim so
> > I started looking into replacements, as my LFS doesn't carry the bulbs
> > I need. When I saw that bulbs sold specifically for aquariums on the
> > pet-supply websites go for about $100 each I tried to look around for
> > alternative sources. After doing some research on the Krib I have
> > found that I should probably find at minimum bulbs with a CRI >90 and
> > a temp of 5000K (at minimum, higher is probably better.) It seems as
> > though bulbs with a lesser CRI and temperature could be used (and
> > would be just fine for the plants) but apparently would cause the tank
> > and light in the room to be an unpleasant color. The tank acts as a
> > room divider between my dining and living rooms, so it's important to
> > me that the light quality be pleasant. The tank has very few animal
> > residents (a few shrimp, one incredibly large SAE, one angel, a few
> > otos, one pleco and finally about a dozen tetras) and plants are
> > primarily swords, crypts, aponogentons, and anubias. No fast growing
> > plants because I'm lazy and don't want to spend the time on the
> > maintenance. :)
> >
> > If anyone out there thinks that I'm incorrect (ie, a CRI of 60-70 on a
> > 3500k bulb would be just fine - these bulbs were much less expensive)
> > and/or can point me to a source I would be very grateful. Thank you!
> >
> > Jen
> > _______________________________________________
> > Aquatic-Plants mailing list
> > Aquatic-Plants at actwin_com
> > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo/aquatic-plants
> >
>
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