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Re: [APD] RE: why algae will not grow

So it's sort of like, there's plenty to eat but no one
invited them to the table. Meanwhile, for the higher
plants, it's boarding house rules. ;-)

Scott H.

--- Thomas Barr <tcbiii at earthlink_net> wrote:
> > On Apr 1, 2005 4:55 PM, David Aiken
> <daiken at iprimus_com.au> wrote: 
> > > I'd suspect that the process interrupted is actually
> nothing more than
> > > nutrition and that the algae effectively starves as a
> result of being
> > > out-competed for food. What else could it be?
> >  But it can't be that -- there is always food
> available. In fact, there
> is 
> > more food available now than there was when I had algae
> growing. 
> >  Liz
> Liz is correct.
> The issue is one of inducement.
> Chemicals signal new growth, these might be variations in
> CO2 for BBA, NH4
> for green water and staghorn and maybe other species,
> build up of organic
> matter and high light, low PO4 etc.
> Remove these variations for a few weeks, and there is no
> new growth of
> algae, there is nothing to signal the spores and adult
> algae to keep
> growing.
> When conditions change, algae generally respond by
> producing spores and new
> growth.
> Which alga has a better chance of survival? A smaller
> young alga or a fully
> mature adult alga?
> Removing the adults and cleaning them off and then
> correcting the
> conditions and providing a stable place for the plant's
> needs will beat
> back any algae.
> Spores need NH4 to get going in many species of algae. 
> Healthy plants = very low NH4.
> This is true in non CO2 and CO2 enriched tanks.
> Plants that are stressed by low CO2 temporarily(CO2
> variation) will leak
> photosynthate, N and other compounds and also not grow.
> This also reduces the amount of NH4 removed from the tank
> and helps when
> combined with low CO2 when the plants are adapted to high
> CO2.
> Low O2 levels rather than high O2 levels might also be a
> signal. There is
> some correlation there.
> Plants take longer to get their machiery up and working
> at full speed. They
> have much more biomass and transport distances, diffusion
> issues.
> If it were merely high O2 levels, then adding pure O2
> would address the
> algae, but when I added pure O2, this did not occur. 
> Regards, 
> Tom Barr
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