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Today's Topics:
1. For Baltimore/DC folks: cool plants (whimbrel at comcast_net)
2. Re: For Baltimore/DC folks: cool plants (S. Hieber)
3. RE: OT Flea Bombs (Rozell, Spencer)
4. Re: Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 13, Issue 27 (Randy Pullen)
5. Re: Avoiding Fleas -- banning the bomb (Ann Viverette)
6. Re: Re: Avoiding Fleas -- banning the bomb (Rachel Sandage)
7. Re: rainwater and ph levels (S. Hieber)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:17:44 +0000
From: whimbrel at comcast_net
Subject: [APD] For Baltimore/DC folks: cool plants
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
This message is for the Maryland and DC people who get their plants at the Aquarium Center in Randallstown.
Gloria just got some really cool plants in yesterday. I went to see them today, and was squealing like a kid in a candy store (it was so pathetic...)
If you're interested, call Gloria at 410-521-4529 or get there in the next couple of days.
Some highlights (in addition to her usual stock of plants):
- Ludwigia ovalis
- Hygro salicifolia
- Hygro lacustris
- "long-leaf hygro" (looks superficially like the other two hygros except
it's green and leaves are longer. Other two have red stems)
- Lagaroisiphon madagascarensis
- Cuban Ludwigia
- Tonina spp.
- Crypt albida
- Anubias lancetola
- Bolbitis heteroclita
- Cabomba piauhyensis (gorgeous red color!)
- Nesaea pedicellata
- Potamageton persoliatus
Please excuse the spelling mistakes!
There was this mystery plant that superficially looks like Baby's Tears but has a pink tint to it. Gloria had forgotten the name, but said it was a Rotala species. Really pretty.
Oh, and I took in some Narrow Leaf Java Fern for her too. And saw Lace Java there.
I bought a nice pile of plants to take home. Hope I can keep 'em alive.
cheers,
shireen
P.S. Do me a favor, when you talk to Gloria, please scold her for not being on the internet yet. I've been hounding her about it for the past 2 years!
--
Shireen Gonzaga/Baltimore, MD
whimbrel at comcast_net
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Hieber"
Subject: Re: [APD] For Baltimore/DC folks: cool plants
To: aquatic plants digest
Hey, Shireen, glad to see you on the list. :-)
Think she'll still have them in November? No? Maybe more?
The Aquarium Center in Randallstown can expect a lot of
visitors November 13; a lot of folks are signing up for the
AGA Field Trip. Be sure to tell Gloria to "Stock up!"
Scott H.
--- whimbrel at comcast_net wrote:
> This message is for the Maryland and DC people who get
> their plants at the Aquarium Center in Randallstown.
>
> Gloria just got some really cool plants in yesterday. I
> went to see them today, and was squealing like a kid in a
> candy store (it was so pathetic...)
>
> If you're interested, call Gloria at 410-521-4529 or get
> there in the next couple of days.
>
> Some highlights (in addition to her usual stock of
> plants):
> - Ludwigia ovalis
> - Hygro salicifolia
> - Hygro lacustris
> - "long-leaf hygro" (looks superficially like the other
> two hygros except
> it's green and leaves are longer. Other two have
> red stems)
> - Lagaroisiphon madagascarensis
> - Cuban Ludwigia
> - Tonina spp.
> - Crypt albida
> - Anubias lancetola
> - Bolbitis heteroclita
> - Cabomba piauhyensis (gorgeous red color!)
> - Nesaea pedicellata
> - Potamageton persoliatus
>
> Please excuse the spelling mistakes!
>
> There was this mystery plant that superficially looks
> like Baby's Tears but has a pink tint to it. Gloria had
> forgotten the name, but said it was a Rotala species.
> Really pretty.
>
> Oh, and I took in some Narrow Leaf Java Fern for her too.
> And saw Lace Java there.
>
> I bought a nice pile of plants to take home. Hope I can
> keep 'em alive.
>
> cheers,
> shireen
>
>
> P.S. Do me a favor, when you talk to Gloria, please scold
> her for not being on the internet yet. I've been hounding
> her about it for the past 2 years!
=====
Plant your feet in Washington, D.C. and touch the moon -- at the National Air & Space Museum.
And learn the art of aquascaping Senske style at AGA2K4.
Speakers, field trip, Ray "Kingfish" Lucas, and more. . .
The Annual AGA Convention, 2004, November 12-14.
Convention Details/Registration at aquatic-gardeners.org & gwapa.org
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:17:18 -0700
From: "Rozell, Spencer"
Subject: RE: [APD] OT Flea Bombs
To: "aquatic plants digest"
-----Original Message-----
From: aquatic-plants-bounces+srozell=mdsi_ca at actwin.com
[mailto:aquatic-plants-bounces+srozell=mdsi_ca at actwin.com]On Behalf Of
Bill Wichers
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 8:14 AM
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
Subject: Re: [APD] OT Flea Bombs
>Cover the tank top with thin plastic drop cloth (get it at paint stores,
>Lowe's, etc) and seal up all openings with tape. If you have an open filter
>system, turn it off and cover it with plastic and tape too. Wrap the sealed
>up tank with more plastic sheeting. Assuming you have plants and light and
>your tank's not overstocked, there should be enough oxygen supply for a day
>or so.
>
>Dan Dixon
It would also be possible to run an air pump and put it somewhere the flea
bomb wasn't going to be, and just run some airline tubing to the tank. This
way you can pump air into the tank from an uncontaminated area, and
maintain a positive pressure under the plastic film to keep the
contaminated air from entering (like how the asbestos people seal buildings
for abatement, but on a much smaller scale, and backwards :-)
-Bill
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:28:47 -0600
From: "Randy Pullen"
Subject: Re: [APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 13, Issue 27
To:
Thanks, Scott
>>> shieber at yahoo_com 9/21/2004 5:51:13 PM >>>
Yes, so long as you are throttling it down on the output
side and not the intake side. The kind of pump in that
filter, and most aquarium canister filters, is a simple
permanent magnet rotor, AC motor with a centrifugal pump on
the end. If you restrict the water flow on the output side,
it won't hurt the motor or the pump. If you turn it down to
*next to nothing*, the motor might overheat, but I doubt
it. Otherwise, no problem.
IF you throttle it down on the intake side, you might cause
bubbles in the pump chamber (cavitation) which will be very
noisy and cause the moving part, the rotor to wear
prematurely.
Once the filter has been up and running for whil, the
accumulation of biofilm in the tubes and detritus inthe
mdeia will unavoidably slow down the water flow. So you
might want to turn the valve open a bit more when it starts
to slow down.
If too much detritus collects inthe media, it's the same as
closing down a valve on the intake side, so you'll start to
hear bubbles collecting inthe filter faster than the eheim
can burp them out. You might think it is sucking in air
directly from outside the filter, but it's sucking the air
from the water -- then it's well past time to rinse,
refresh, replace the media ;-)
Scott H.
--- Randy Pullen wrote:
> I have the 2026 also and turned down the flow rate
> perhaps to 50% is
> that an acceptable thing to do?
> Thanks,
>
>
=====
Plant your feet in Washington, D.C. and touch the moon -- at the
National Air & Space Museum.
And learn the art of aquascaping Senske style at AGA2K4.
Speakers, field trip, Ray "Kingfish" Lucas, and more. . .
The Annual AGA Convention, 2004, November 12-14.
Convention Details/Registration at aquatic-gardeners.org & gwapa.org
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:01:03 -0500
From: "Ann Viverette"
Subject: [APD] Re: Avoiding Fleas -- banning the bomb
To:
There are flea killing formulas that contain flea birth control and can be
mixed in a sprayer or is premixed in a spray can. Then you can treat the
couch, the carpets, under the bed, the dusty corners and so on, but avoid
the fish tank and the dinner dishes and kitchen surfaces. Be sure to flip
the sofa cushions to get all of that well. This stuff prevents any new ones
from hatching but you still have to deal with the live ones. You can use a
drop treatment on the dog then all the fleas will jump on the cat, which
they prefer anyhow.
Most (all) of the fleas that plague our pets are cat fleas, so if you get a
flea comb and your cat will permit it, you can groom the cat, snagging the
flea on the comb and flicking it into a cup of soapy water. Then watch it
twist and turn as it slowly sinks to the bottom of the cup, dead, dead,
dead. Your cat will feel well loved, groomed just like Mama used to do it. I
found that all the fleas went to the cats chin and above the ears, only a
few at the base of the tail, I suppose any other spot was within range of
the cat's teeth so not a good resting site.
If the fleas are really terrible, it may be that something has died in the
chimney. That happened to a friend. They treated the cat with one of those
drop type treatments, so the fleas did not attack the cat but were a plague
on any person who ventured into the house after the racoon was dead in the
chimney and not good for lunch anymore. We were reinfested with fleas this
way by visiting this friend, after 5 or 8 flealess years, but I was able to
groom the cat and spray the furniture and get rid of them again.
I got the stuff from a pool and pest place that sells pool chemicals and
pesticides of many sorts.
Ann Viverette
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: PENNY CROWLEY
> Subject: [APD] Avoiding Fleas
> To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com
>
>
> We have dogs, cats, fish, and fleas. I'd like to use a
> "flea bomb" to
> kill the fleas in the furniture. Any suggestions of
> how to do this
> without killing the fish?
>
> **********************************************
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:18:00 -0700
From: "Rachel Sandage"
Subject: Re: [APD] Re: Avoiding Fleas -- banning the bomb
To: "aquatic plants digest"
Thanks to all who took pity on my and my flea filled house. I also made the happy discovery that dosing myself with allegra reduces my response to the bites, making it a mild annoyance rather than a total disaster.
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Hi im from Hilo on the Big Island of Hawaii. The main question I have regards my ph level in my tap water.
Here in Hilo some of us (including myself) use a catchment tank for our household water source.
I have tested my water and found the ph level to be close to 6.0 or slightly lower. using a tetra test kit.
I have not set-up my planted tank yet, but this is what I have:
-55 Gal tank
-Coralife Freshwater CF (4x65W)
-Eheim canister filter 2217, aqua clear200
-Kitty litter substrate (works great), 4 bags of eco-complete planted substrate, and gravel
-CO2
I am afraid that with the added co2 my ph levels might drop too low, therefore being harmful to the plants and fish. What can I do to prevent this from occuring?
What additives if any do I need?
Josh
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 03:13:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Hieber"
Subject: Re: [APD] rainwater and ph levels
To: jklewis at mercurymarauder_net, aquatic plants digest
You can adjust the pH to compensate for the addition of CO2
by using a carbonate or bicarbonate compound. Adding a
carbonate/bicarbonate will tend to move the pH higher while
the CO@ tends to move it lower.
Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) dissolves readily and will
raise your KH but not your GH and buffer the pH. Or you can
use calcium carbonate, which will raise the KH and the GH
and buffer the pH.
How much if either to use? George and KArla Booth's
excellent web site explains:
Go to this page:
http://aquaticconcepts.thekrib.com/
In the left column of choices, click on "Tech Brief: Carbon
Dioxide"
Then click on "What is a good KH for a planted aquarium? "
In that Brief, they also explain how to use the pH/KH/CO2
table to determine the amount of CO2 that is in the water.
Roam the site, have fun,
Scott H.
--- Josh wrote:
>
>
> Hi im from Hilo on the Big Island of Hawaii. The main
> question I have regards my ph level in my tap water.
>
> Here in Hilo some of us (including myself) use a
> catchment tank for our household water source.
> I have tested my water and found the ph level to be close
> to 6.0 or slightly lower. using a tetra test kit.
>
> I have not set-up my planted tank yet, but this is what I
> have:
> -55 Gal tank
> -Coralife Freshwater CF (4x65W)
> -Eheim canister filter 2217, aqua clear200
> -Kitty litter substrate (works great), 4 bags of
> eco-complete planted substrate, and gravel
> -CO2
>
> I am afraid that with the added co2 my ph levels might
> drop too low, therefore being harmful to the plants and
> fish. What can I do to prevent this from occuring?
>
> What additives if any do I need?
=====
Plant your feet in Washington, D.C. and touch the moon -- at the National Air & Space Museum.
And learn the art of aquascaping Senske style at AGA2K4.
Speakers, field trip, Ray "Kingfish" Lucas, and more. . .
The Annual AGA Convention, 2004, November 12-14.
Convention Details/Registration at aquatic-gardeners.org & gwapa.org
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