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   1. RE: Off Topic (Laith Arif)
   2. Re: I blame Tom Barr for this! (Norman Hicks)
   3. Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 12, Issue 53 (roger)
   4. Pimp dat tank (Thomas Barr)


Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:08:49 +0200
From: "Laith Arif" <laith at swissonline_ch>
Subject: RE: [APD] Off Topic
To: "'Kevin Madsen'" <kevin_madsen at gmail.com>,	"'aquatic plants
	digest'" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>

Sure, why not...



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From: Kevin Madsen [mailto:kevin_madsen at gmail.com]
Sent: 26 August 2004 17:18
To: aquatic plants digest
Subject: [APD] Off Topic

Anyone here want a GMail Invite?

Kevin Madsen
Kevin_Madsen at GMAIL.com


Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:08:55 -0400
From: "Norman Hicks" <zapus at alltel_net>
Subject: Re: [APD] I blame Tom Barr for this!
To: "Laser" <laser at rse_co.za>,	"aquatic plants digest"
	<aquatic-plants at actwin_com>



Message: 3
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:29:50 -0700
From: "roger" <roger at spinn_net>
Subject: [APD] Re: Aquatic-Plants Digest, Vol 12, Issue 53
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:04:26 -0400, Phillip Grobler wrote

> Are there any disadvantages to using natural light for a very large
> planted tank.( about 3000L.)

Skylights are notorious for leaking.

Using natural light reduces your lighting costs and gives you very rich and
authentic color rendition.  The problem is that you probably will not be
to use natural light alone.  You need some way to set up artificial light so
that it doesn't block a lot of the natural light.

My 150 gallon tank sits under 2 2'x4' non-leaking skylights.  The skylights
are domed and frosted so they produce a diffuse light with a pretty even
distribution through the day.  I love the effect.  Artificial light is
provided by compact fluorescent lamps in a rack over the otherwise
tank.  Without artificial light the light on the tank is just sufficient to
get pearling late in the day.  When the light rack is in place it reduces
natural light a little -- probably about 1/3.  When I first set the tank up
felt that the combination of artificial and natural light was too bright and
timed the lamps to come on in the late afternoon.  Once the tank settled in
(and the lamps dimmed a little) I had no trouble keeping the lamps on during
the day.  Now I have the lamps come on at 10 in the morning and run 'till 10
at night.

> I'm thinking of using Solar tubes/ Skylight to provide the bulk of
> the light needed to support plant growth and adding  metal Halides
> from 6 to 9pm so I can enjoy the tank.

I'm very happy with my setup, but I expect your experience may be somewhat
different.  I'm in a high desert where the sun is not only very strong but
very dependable.  We never get extended periods of overcast.  From your
address you are in the UK.  I expect your sunlight will be much weaker and
less dependable than mine. Still, it can't hurt (except perhaps your heating
bills) and it can help.  A larger area of skylights might be helpful.

> I'm I right in asuming if I keep the water parameters in check then
> the sunlight itself should not cause more algea problems than
> artificial lights ?

There should be no special problems from the sunlight.  It might help if you
can rig lights on a light sensor so that artificial lights come on when the
sunlight is too low for good growth.

Roger Miller


Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:14:47 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: Thomas  Barr <tcbiii at earthlink_net>
Subject: [APD] Pimp dat tank
To: aquatic-plants at actwin_com

>What are you, some kind of pimp for the botanical world or what??? :):)
>I tell you this plant hobby is WAY out of control, much to my girlfriend's
dismay :)
>Have a good weekend, happy home tissue culturing!!! :)
>Kind Regards
>Cameron James

A plant pimp? I guess I could do a show on PTV, plant TV's version of MTV,
"Pimp My Tank", and take it to West Coast Mafia's Plant lab and have a crack
team of plant professionals deck out the some poor unsuspecting beaten up
algae ridden tank and then return it to the owner. We could attach a LCD
screen to take with you so you could watch the tank remotely. It would have
a kickin stereo, the stand would be painted cheesy orange and you could have
orange gaudy dinner plate fish to match. The stand would have chrome rims
that cost more than the tank as legs. We would put a low profile grill on
the front of the stand and custom glass windows for the tank. CO2+nitrious
mix injection, autowater chnger(instead of a CD changer, but it would have
that too to set the mood of the fish and ambience).
And a pair of Tix to take a class with Amano.

"Thanks PTV for pimping my tank!"

Tom Barr


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