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Re: [APD] Re: Growing Glosso Update



thanks Byron for your lengthy, informative response!

I'm not sure how to get access to the Feb Postings...I just joined this
awesome mailing list
cay you forward them to my email address

Gilly


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Byron Yu" <byronjyu at hotmail_com>
To: <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [APD] Re: Growing Glosso Update


> Hi,
>
> Although my glosso has only been growing well for the past 3 weeks, i'll
> volunteer my suggestions....
>
> 1. yes, light is important, but you'll know within days if you have
enough,
> that's when the glosso will start growing up or sideways.
> 2. CO2 is very important! The difference I had between diy yeast and a
> pressurized system was night and day. Now i'm getting big, plump, healthy,
> beautiful leaves with my pressurized system, where b4 i was wondering what
> the big deal with glosso was. Afterall, plants need carbon as building
> materials. I was at Big Al's (lfs) the other day and they had just got a
new
> shippment of tropica glosso... i'm proud to say that those ones looked
> sickly compared to mine ;)
> 3. Nitrates: they love it. I keep it around 10 ppm. Don't overdose cause
> it's bad for the fish!
> 4. and for that extra touch.... small substate. I use Red Sea Florabase
now.
> B4, i tried the seachem flourite but i thought the rocks were just too
big.
>
> You should look in the February postings for the responses to my cry for
> help about glosso. Everybody was so helpful.
>
> Anyways, about the lighting argument.... I understand how that article i
> referenced earliar does not provide a cohesive argument..... Just that
> with my lighting system i can only have the option of either 65 watts or
130
> watts. With 65 watts (+3wpg), my colour plants start losing their colour
> (although the glosso still grew well.) With 130 watts (6.5 wpg), my plants
> look amazing (in my humble opinion, the plants in Big Al's plant tanks got
> nothing on mine. don't even bother to look at those tanks when i'm in the
> stores now.) and have had no bad side effects yet (fingers crossed.)
>
> My thinking is that the plants require a certain minimum amount of light.
> obviously, if you have a 1 gallon tank, 3 watts would not be enough for
the
> tank. Just
> as if you had a 200 gallon tank, 600 watts would be too much. I just think
> there's been too much attached to this 3 wpg rule. In hydroponics, when
they
> grow plants with artificial lights, they use MH's and there aren't any
> gallons involved in the equation. The purpose of the lights for the plants
> are to try to simulate an energy sourse normally provided for the sun,
isn't
> it? The natural habitats of these plants are in extremely sunny areas, and
> NOT underwater. Yes, some plants don't require a lot of light, but some
do.
> All i know is now with my lighting system, i have no fear of any plant! No
> flames please. I haven't researched or tested this idea, it's just
something
> that occured to me. And even considering this, 130 watts may be overkill,
> but 65 watts (+3wpg) is definitely not enough!
>
> Byron
>
> >
> > Hi Quick newbie question about growing Glossostigma elatinoides for the
> > foreground
> >
> > I'd like it to carpet my foreground with this awesome plant.  The
bunches
> I
> > received are about 2-3 CM high.  As I've read, with adequate lighting ,
> > these will grow short as they do in the books :-)  I have a 75 Gallon,
ph
> > 6.9 , plant tank, with 6500K compact  flourescents.  Are there any
> > tips/tricks to help in my quest
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Gilly
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
> > To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: [APD] Re: Growing Glosso Update
> >
> >
> > > And I guess another way to put it is that there are a
> > > number of things Amano can pull off that I can't come close
> > > to. ;-)
> > >
> > > Scott H.
> > > --- Andrew McLeod <thefish at theabyssalplain_freeserve.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:45:53 -0800 (PST), S. Hieber
> > > > <shieber at yahoo_com>
> > > >
> > > > The fact only Amano tanks are included is the biggest
> > > > statistical
> > > > 'cardinal sin', IMHO.
> > > > With more data, preferably stratified into CO2/non CO2 or
> > > > better still
> > > > high-growth/low-growth (I don't know how you'd do that)
> > > > and accounting for
> > > > reflectors, you could probably find what the current
> > > > relationship used by
> > > > the average aquarist is (although that's not necessarily
> > > > the best).
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > S. Hieber
> > >
> > > -  -   -   -   -   -   -   -
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> > > to the AGA Annual Convention
> > > Nov 12, 13 & 14, 2004 -- Crystal City, Virginia
> > >
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