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[APD] Re: some stupid (perfectly good) questions and A comment onwater changes
Airwreck wrote:
>> when talking about the water column are you meaning the water in the
tank??<<
"Karen Randall"
Yes.
"S. Hieber"
Yes. we just sound so much more technical when we say
"water column" instead of "tank water". Continuing to be
technical, it also includes the water in any externa
gadgets, the wtaer in which comes from and flows back into
the aquarium, such as filters, CO2 reactors, UV lamps, etc.
Ok I understand what you are saying... and I deducted that it was the water
in the system.. but I think that the use of extremely technical voc. is
sometimes over done. IMHO.. Not everybody who read this information is
always going to follow the lexicon of a small group of insiders. it would
be much more beneficial to lurkers.
>> Second one is when you refer to it vegetative reproduction are you
meaning cuttings or divisions or is there something that I know how clue
about?? <<
"Karen Randall"
Both are forms of vegetative reproduction. Sexual reproduction is via seeds
or spores.
"S. Hieber"
Reproduction without growing from seed. This can be from a
parent planting splitting off a new plantelet
(Echinodoruses do this quite easily) or by sending out
runners (Vals love to do this and cryptocorynes too).
Again IMHO. This is another case of using lexicon that is only for the
insiders.. Yes I know that Vegetative reproduction is not from seeds..I
just was trying to figure out if there was some thing special.. If as a lay
person someone asks me how I got more of a certain plant ..my response
would not be Vegetative reproduction.. it would be exactly how I did it..
either by division or cutting..or even grafting(which I doubt is done).
>> another one in my stupid questions is a recently I've been looking at AGA
tank competition and I was wondering how old these tanks are? Or they
created just for the show? <<
There are some of each. As a judge, all else being equal, (which, in
reality, they rarely are) I will give the nod to the long-term tank.
Sometimes you will find an entry that includes photos over a period of time.
Otherwise, you can tell the long-term tanks that have been entered more than
one year, because it will state that fact in the text of the entry, so you
can go back and see the tank the year before. Again, I tend to favor tanks
that are recognizable from one year to the next, even though there will alos
obviously have been changes over that length of time.
"S. Hieber"
You can tell from some of the pics that some of them or
some of the plants have just been put into the tanks. Some
tanks are designed just for the show and aren't intended as
ongoing endeavors -- some of them would be real pitas to
maintain. Some are just well designed, well kept tanks. All
of them are enjoyable to view.
YES I will agree that the tanks are extremely enjoyable to view. but :-)
IMHO ( seems to be used a lot) this does not make a level playing
field..more of who has the deepest pockets..or who has the best resources
for plants maybe there needs to be a way to separate design from skill...
I will not deign that many of the entries have great design skills in
layout..but does this make them skilled technicians in the art of growing a
plant???
As to knowing which is a long term tank compared to a short term tank..I
went back thru the 200L - 400L entires and if my tiny little brain can
remember exactly I think I only saw 2 that even mentioned how long the
system had been set up..maybe I am just missing something..
>> the last comment I would have is related to water changes. The folks who
are proclaiming large water changes using tap water straight from the line
in their house are barking up a very dangerous tree the reason being is that
you have no idea what you're water department has been adding to that water.
Case in point is my situation, during the dry season here and I made a large
water changed just as you are advocating to do using tap water to my chagrin
within 5 minutes of the water change all my fish died from poisoning. this
was caused by water authority adding more chemicals to purify water because
the reservoir was extremely low and water was in short supply it seemed that
water authority had adding extra chemicals to the water to remove biological
pathogens. I do not disagree with making a large water changes it's just
that one needs to be careful.<<
You are absolutely right that you need to pay attention when doing water
changes of any size. You can kill your fish with smaller water changes too,
under some circumstances. I would suggest that unless you KNOW FOR SURE
that your water does not contain chlorine or worse, chloramine, (for
instance if your water comes from a private well) you use a
chlorinating/dechloraminating substance prophylactically. We don't often
have much of any chlorine, and no cloramine in out tap water, but I still
give a squeeze (isn't that scientific ;-) of Novaqua anyway, if I'm doing a
water change of any size. If you have chloramine in your tap water, I
believe you need to use Amquel.
Karen
I do add Prophylactics to the water as a preventative a "JUST IN CASE"
attitude but in this one example it didn't work..and would not have worked
even if I had added the whole kitchen sink..
The water dept. has to tell you, if you ask, what they put
in the water and they must report periodically on the level
of a number of specifics chemicals, as dictated by EPA.
Cal or write or email them or look for a web site with the
Water Quality Report for you yur water supply.
Scott H.
ROFL... sorry.. but you live in a world far different than mine... I don't
mean to be flippant.. but living in a 3rd world country they don't even
know what's in the water... It took me a week of calling all over just to
find out the pH of the water coming out of the tap..to verify my readings
since they were so alkaline.. now to ask them what's they add.. shite..
they don't have a clue or if someone does then it will take a month to find
them.. and then we have to deal with agriculture run off.. and who know
what seepage happens... What I think what is missing here is that this
digest is read all over the world.. and so the newbie will see something
like just add tap water when making water changes..and everything dies.
Something I had to learn the hard way.. being an ex-pat.
Don't get me wrong..I have gained a ton of information from reading this
digest.. and will keep reading.. and learning
Thanks all I will now return to my lurking..
Have a wonderful New Year...
Airwreck
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