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Re: [APD] Re: Vortex HELP! -- No Fan!?
So I called thatpetplace.com and they had me contact vortex who said I
should just ship the motor back to them. I'm a little disappointed at
thatpetplace.com, the thing is so new they should just replace it. Vortex
was great, very nice and just took my word for it that it was brand new,
although I could easily send them documentation of when we got it. I think
I'm going to call thatpetplace again and ask them to exchange it for me. In
the meantime I've come up with an ad-hoc way of keeping the motor cool. I
have had my floor fan propped over the motor and the thing is running like a
champ. I have had some difficulty keeping it sealed up, but that's only
intermittent and I think it's possibly dissolved CO2 in the jar. The tank
is AMAZINGLY clear, and one of my other xmas presents was a good gift cert.
to buy plants, so I'm looking forward to doing that. Thanks for all the
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Terrell" <dave at terrellclan_com>
To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [APD] Re: Vortex HELP! -- No Fan!?
> I checked the spec's on my motor. It's a Hubbell Special Productions
> 1/40 HP, 3k RPM. I've checked carefully inside the motor unit itself,
> is definately not a fan inside the motor from what I can see, and as Scott
> said, the shaft protruding out the end of the housing would imply there
> should be a fan on that end under the motor cap. The date code would
> it was manufactured Aug. of 2002, also in line with what Scott said.
> Personally, I don't know how this man tracks and remembers these minute
> details of one company, but it has paid off here, thanks Scott. Susan
> offered to take some pictures so I could compare her model with mine, in
> this case I must say thanks so much for the offer of extra effort, but I
> don't think it'll be any better then apples to oranges ;-)
> I tried calling thatfishplace.com tonight, but they directed me to
> Service which is only open 8am-5pm EST (naturally overlapping with when I
> work ;-). I'll try to get a hold of them tomorrow during the day to see
> what they can do, I'll be sure to update the list.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S. Hieber" <shieber at yahoo_com>
> To: "aquatic plants digest" <aquatic-plants at actwin_com>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [APD] Re: Vortex HELP! -- No Fan!?
> > That's an A.O. Smith motor (AO and Magnetek are form the
> > same corp.) They makes lots of motors in this size
> > (so-called fractional horsepower), just like Fasco,
> > Marathon, and few others suppliers. I don't think Magnetek
> > makes a motor this small anymore.
> > My descripton of the XL motor was for the Hubbell. I
> > assumed that David had the newer motor -- but of course, it
> > depends onthe age of the inventory of the vendor. Last time
> > I spoke to an engineer at the factory, the change in motors
> > was essentially a change in sourcing not in specs. I'd
> > expect the performance characteristics to be the same.
> > If David's has the fan internal to the main motor housing
> > (the motor model you have) I wouldn't expect the shaft to
> > protrude through the housing. But in any event, his motor
> > is running hot enough to trip the thermal safety. This
> > could also be due to a shorted winding but it probably
> > wouldn't run close to normal before overheating if due to a
> > shorted winding.
> > Fwiw, I measured the surface temps a few months ago but
> > didn't keep them -- so I don't have the exact temps but the
> > housing reached something like 90s plus F and held there
> > even after running over 3 weeks virtually -- nonstop --
> > just 3-5 minutes stops every day to backwash the diatoms.
> > Definitely hot to the touch -- but hey're supposed to get
> > just so hot and not hotter, not so hot you can't touch it.
> > Scott H.
> > --- Susan Aufieri <susanaufieri at verizon_net> wrote:
> > > I have the XL model that was purchased a little over two
> > > years ago.
> > > It's *clearly* marked with Magnatek, model JA1M087N#
> > > LR33094, 3000 RPM,
> > > 1/45 HP, A.O.
> > >
> > > Under the diverter hat that you mention, there is a
> > > sealed unit with
> > > many square holes at the top of it. The fan can clearly
> > > be seen. It
> > > doesn't appear that the screws which hold the hat on are
> > > anything more
> > > than a place to secure the diverter hat.
> > >
> > > My XL gets warm, but never hot in the way that the poster
> > > describes. As
> > > others have mentioned, mine has run for a day or so at a
> > > time.
> > >
> > =====
> > S. Hieber
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