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RE: [APD] EHEIM diatom Filter

Scott Heiber could you possibly be a bigger butt than you already are?  I
guess the answer is yes!

Diatomaceous earth is a silt sand commonly used in pool filters in the
Southwest.  Silt meaning very very very very very fine.  How in the world
did you get from Seweryns post to lambasting every person who tried
something a little strange?

This avocation is a process of trial and error and learning from the
mistakes and the successes.  I have always wondered if you have a planted
aquaria or just make stuff up as you go along.

A diatom filter (which you have never used and I have) references the size
of particle that is filtered.

Personally I would like to see this post go forward and hear others and
their observations and ideas.

Is it possible that you would just shut up long enough for others to think
reason and resolve?  I hope and pray so.


-----Original Message-----
From: aquatic-plants-bounces at actwin_com
[mailto:aquatic-plants-bounces at actwin_com]On Behalf Of S. Hieber
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 5:01 PM
To: aquatic plants digest
Subject: Re: [APD] EHEIM diatom Filter

After Larry Lampert and I invent the world's first
reasonable diatom filter, you'll have a good answer. Uh,
don't hold your breath onthat one.  So, until then, note
that the trouble with the diatomaceous medium is that it's
a loose medium, not like talk radio but like the sand
that's giving you a problem. It works as a filter when a
fine coating of it is used. A sack of it probably wouldn't
do much unless it was a really really thin sack ;-) .

What you can try is to pack the canister with floss.  The
tighter you pack it the finer it will filter -- up to a
point.  And you'll need to change the floss in a few hours
or days depending on how much you squeeze in. Don't go nuts
with this, you should be able to close the canister without
any difficulty.

As an alternative you can put a layer of 100 micron or 50
micron felt as the very top layer in the eheim.  This too
will load quickly.  The felt you can get at some fish
sotres and certainly at some on-line stores.

Either of these along with activated carbon should clear
your water of any temporary turbity condition. If diatoms
got loose, they'd be a heck of a lot messier than whatever
you now have.

Is this clouding act something the sand did before it went
in the bucket?

Worst comes to worst, you vac up the sand, rinse it
thoroughly and put it back when it no longer clouds badly.
Of course, a tear down is usually the last thing we want to

Good luck, don't get frustrated, think of the mechanical
problems as part of the fun,
Scott H.

--- Seweryn Bialasiewicz <s_bialasiewicz at hotmail_com>
> I know that Eheim does not make one, but is it possible
> to buy a diatom bag
> w/ powder from another brand and place it in the 2213
> canister filter? Ever
> since I added some top up sand (that has been sitting in
> my rinsing bucket
> outside for a few weeks) to my tank, the water has been
> cloudy, no matter
> the water changes, and seems to get progressively worst.
> Cheers,
> - Seweryn
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