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Re: [APD] Re:EcoComplete -- or - Completing comments on Onyx and Eco

Oh yeah.  Thanks for the reminder, Wayne. I forgot to
mention KH.  In my two 20g tanks I did put a handfull of
peat on the glass under the ecocomplete in one tank and
under the onyx in the other.  The pH tracked very closely
in both tanks.  My tap runs about 7.0-7.2 pH. It was
running about 7.1-7.2 when I was setting up and measuring
th 20g tanks -- I mesured for several months.  The
Ecocomplete tank rose to and held at about 7.3 pH and the
Onyx tank rose to and held at 7.4.  No big deal either way,
imo. So I quit measuring and went on to other things.

Just to clarify my prior comments, Ecocomplete was not bad
at gripping new plantings, Onyx was just much better.  The
smaller grain size seemed to make it easier for the Onyx to
fall in and cover the roots as the forceps is removed --
less wiggling involved of the sort Gary Lange described at
the AGA meeting at the NEC Convention last spring.

I have found Ecocomplete more likely to be in a lfs.

Scott H.

<wayne at waswa_fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> I have recently used this product on a 200 litre tank.  I
> must say I am
> very pleased with it so far.  Tipping it straight from
> the bag into the
> tank was quite a sublime experience :-)  I very much like
> the black
> colour, and I have been pleasantly surprised to see that
> the colours of
> some of the fish have significantly darkened &
> intensified in response
> to the substrate colour (SAEs & Clown Loaches in
> particular).  The
> particles have a rounded finish and range from approx
> 1-3mm.  I have
> found the product's ability to 'grip' newly planted
> stems, glosso etc to
> be excellent.
> Only drawback so far is that, despite assurances on the
> pack that this
> would not happen, the KH has risen from 4 to 8.  It seems
> similar to
> Onyx in this respect.  I would follow Tom Barr's
> recommendation for
> adding some peat to the bottom layer if I were to use it
> again.  I
> expect the KH will return to normal over time, we shall
> see.
> EcoComplete comes in packs of 9kg, but it is packed wet
> so I think you
> get about the same quantity in a pack as a 7kg bag of
> Flourite - so you
> can still use Jared's Flourite calculator if you want to
> work out how
> much you need.
> For any UK members interested in using this product, I
> bought it from
> The Water Zoo in Peterborough.
> Regards
> Wayne
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