I just finished a clean and trim in one of my tanks and I have 3 or 4 vals and a small bunch of Java moss, if anyone is interested. Email me off list with name, address, if so. -Mak http://www.thirtytwopaws.com/mak/ I'm not a complete idiot- several parts are missing. It's funny how the earth never opens up and swallows you when you want it to. -Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "Teacher's Pet"