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Re: Greenhouse

I asked:

>> I'm thinking of building a greenhouse for some swords to over - "winter"
>> and am curious to learn from others who grow orchids and other exotics.
>> Have you tried growing your aquatic plants in your green house?
>> On another note, does anyone know of a SAFE, LEGAL & ABOVE BOARD way to
>> obtain hydroponic equipment that will not inadvertently automatically
>> "red-flag" me w/ the local flat-foots?

Tom Barr:

>Why use artificial light? You live were the plants grow:) That's the
>cheapest method. Most swords will make it just fine. They do fine in dry
>California so I think the warmer wetter Florida should be able to do most
>any plant. 

I answer:

I want to grow them on an outdoor enclosed patio thats why I need the
lights.  I fear I'd be in violaton of some @#$%!! permit that I'm not zoned
for if I placed the greenhouse outside.

>The police will do what they want pretty much:)
>If your not doing anything illegal you won't have any problems is what they
>like to say..........
>I do not agree with that line of reasoning.....even if I don't have
>something to hide......
>Your doing a business/hobby so if they do ask, you do not have to tell them
>anything. It's up to them to prove your doing something illegal. Not a
>hunch. I'd be getting quite upset at being attacked late at night for my
>aquatic plants. I had my MH lights in plain site of the police. Never did
>they ever ask and they had plenty of opportunities. I would be on the phone
>the next day to find the SOB who is going around around assuming everyone is
>breaking the law and discriminating and profiling people. Someone would pay.
>I am not going to live in fear of it though. It's up to them to make the
>first move. I'll sue/raise hell later:)
>Some authorities skate the edge of the law to look for criminal activity.
>Some have their hands full already:) It's hit or miss for them. They will
>miss with me:)
>Of course if your a Chinese/Taiwanese physicist, you don't have such
>rights......they will (and did) jail your butt on a hunch.......

My answer:

I never forgot James Purchase's terrifying experience w/ the home invasion
by the local flatfoots attracted like flies to his MHs shinning through the
window.  And if my memory serves me they damaged his equipment!!  They can
always say they had "reports" of "suspicious activity".   Well, I'm always
coming and going w/ priority boxes to ship and I tell my nosey neighbours
JACK about my business.  

Its all well and good to say you'll sue the Jackbooted flatfoots after they
damage your stuff.  They can drop all charges after they have taken weeks
to realize that emersed hydrophilia is not a variant of pot and Anacharis
is not Cannibis!  But Its up to YOU to prove they had no "probable cause"
in the first place.  Sueing takes thousands of dollars. I am by no means
RICH. AND remember, they would have succeeded in knocking you out of the
marketplace for at least a week or two in its busiest season!    Ironic
isnt it?  Its only the real law-breakers that have the money to defend
themselves and prosecute the cops! >:-(

Paranoid?  Perhaps.  But from my perspective if they don't know of you they
can't be out to get you!

I will try to buy the equipment w/ a money order via mail order so the
local flatfoots can't follow me home.

I asked:

> 1.      How are the lighing fixtures protected w/in the greenhouse when the
> humidity is so high?

zxcvbob  wrote:

>The lamps and the fixtures are hot, so the moisture should not condense
>on them.

I ask:

What about at night when the lights are off?

zxcvbob  wrote:

> 2.      I assume CF lights use less energy than MH lights.  Thus, can CF
> be used in a greenhouse?

>No, CF and MH lamps are about the same.  Good MH lamps start out more
>efficient than CF's, but they don't age as well.  HPS or linear T8/TL80
>(a.k.a. "SPX") are cheaper and more efficient than either CF or MH.  

I ask:

OK.  Now, where can I find these HPS or linear T8/TL80 (a.k.a. "SPX")
lights and fixtures to buy?

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