Re: CO2 Regulation, Bombast and Shame

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<< I don't consider this thread shameful at all. I consider it lively and
 interesting. I wouldn't get so bent out of shape over people aggressively
 defending their point of view. >>


Aggressive? Well, that's one adjective I would not use to describe it.  These 
*experts* who claim not to be experts on CO2 (interesting -- but they all 
said that somewhere along the line) have elevated an essentially simple and 
straightforward issue and clouded it and distorted reality for their own 
vested reasons.  List members had expressed concern of CO2 cylinders possibly 
exploding,  leaking CO2 into the living room   (Do you have any concept how 
much CO2 would have to leak into  the average room to cause a health risk?  
It is NOT Carbon Monoxide fellows) etc., fish kills, silent uncontrolled gas 
dumps etc. Scare tactics. It's not rocket science.  

And they also denigrated weighing the gas cylinder  (well dismissed it) when 
the suggestion of the welding guy was offered.  Not to avoid a gas dump but, 
simply as a way to gauge when the cylinder was nearing empty so I could get a 
replacement cylinder so I would not run out when the shop was closed on a 
weekend or a holiday. Cripes. That is just about as low tech as you can get. 
Weigh it when it's full with regulator on and gas line in place, ( make note 
of it)  and weight it weekly or monthly or whenever, and when it's nearing 
empty shut it down and get a refill!!!! How complicated is that?  

And look . Another commercial vendor said on this list on this subject 
referring to the Bioplast regulator  in words to the effect ** Well it looks 
like a low pressure regulator..... and it's made in Germany.** It could be 
made on the moon for all I know. What the hell difference does it make where 
it's made other than thread compatibility because we Americans are back in 
the stone age when it comes to converting over to the metric system which 
should have been completed 10 - years ago.  By these comments this fellow 
implies that this particular CO2 regulator system is crap.  My only question 
is if he thinks it's crap (or second rate and or not safe) why is he selling 
it in the first place? 

BTW I'm still waiting for  a response to the gauge calibration question  
posed insofar as how one defines high and low gas pressure systems, and the 
manner in which these gauges are calibrated and marked. Like how can WE the 
unwashed tell by looking at a CO2 regulator if it is a high or low pressure 
one? Or is this a feeling on gets  as an expert?

Gas comes out of the cylinder at one pressure as measured by the first gauge. 
Then through some act of magic it gets stepped down to it's working pressure 
as measured by the second gauge which has a control knob to adjust said 
working pressure.  The output is then  regulated in a more precise manner 
with a metering  or needle valve.  The gas is fed into a bubble chamber where 
said needle valve can adjust the bubbles per second. The gas is then tubed 
into a reactor or disfusser and injected into the aquarium. This sounds to me 
like a two gauge, two phase regulator system. It works. It does not seem to 
dump  I have to use the term *seem* because some obsessive - compulsive  
would probably come along and smirk * well it could possibly*. Sure just 
about any thing could possibly to anyone or anything.)

I have NO problem with anyone aggressively expousing his or her position, 
opinion or whatever. However common decency and civility used to be the norm 
in this society. I guess that's changed. So in one way this lack of respect  
could be simply one manifestation of this perceived trend.

So there. I have tried to be polite and civil while aggressively outlining my 
personal views.

David Napierkowski

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